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Brilliant stuff from David Cameron today



Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
Not at all, after this weeks show I'm even MORE confident especially as the next omni shambles is only round the corner like the Car Tax

What is this 'Car Tax' omni shambles you speak of ?
 




Tax-free personal allowance to be raised from £10,500 to £12,500
40% rate raised from £41,900 to £50,000
Abolish zero-hour contracts
NHS budget protected

...and much, much more.

A veritable masterclass in how to deliver to an audience unlike forgetful Ed.

I hope Miliband has not paid a deposit for the removal men next year.

You are clearly much more gullible than you normally come across. I wouldn't believe a word he said if he stated " my name is David Cameron". Cameron and his sidekick Osborne are two of the most dishonest politicians you will ever come across.
 




The promise to abolish zero hours contracts is hot air. The only way to do this within the strictures of English contract law is to require that every contract for work have a minimum number of guaranteed hours. Clearly, employers will only guarantee the minimum, and the workers who suffer from irregular earnings and hours will have the same problems they do now. And they'll have their tax credits frozen to boot (Osborne has already announced this).

Still, I think Cameron won over a significant number of floating voters with his tax cut promise - it's simple to understand, and it allows people to quantify how much better off they would be.

I dread the thought that he might get a majority, as that will put the country on the fast track to withdrawal from the Human Rights Act, ECHR and EU. I know some people are convinced that this will lead to some form of free market utopia, but I'm convinced it's the path to ruin and international pariah status. Plus it will make immigration queues at European airports an f'ing nightmare.

Contract with one hour a week retainer perhaps, someone is already working on a way round it I suspect.
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
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Jun 11, 2011
14,093
Worthing
I'd quite like to vote for a party that says something like this:

* We'll attempt to get the deficit down, but much like a 25 year mortgage there really is no hurry as long as we can service it. The national debt is not a major issue when you consider the infrastructure we have, which is essentially our "equity" on this debt.
* We're going to keep income tax roughly what it is.
* We're going to reduce VAT gradually over a ten year period because we realise it is obscene.
* We won't pander to the loud minority who want to decimate our trading links with the EU
* We're going to pay for this by keeping our noses out of wars that we have absolutely no business getting involved in.

Please start a political party, I want to vote for you
 












Hatterlovesbrighton

something clever
Jul 28, 2003
4,543
Not Luton! Thank God
Gets my vote. I actually hope that we get a con lib collation again next time. Being fiscally conservative but socially pretty liberal I've seen the lib dems as moderating some of the more looney Tory mps. Not sure it will happen again though. More likely to see a conservative minority government.
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
With the cost of living spiralling out of control I don't really see these tax cuts as a big help for low earners to be honest.
These clowns will never understand how tough it is for low earners and with so many low earners who's goner pay for their pension's when they retire?These people have no hope of saving money or putting into a pension fund..joke
 






lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
NSC Patron
Jun 11, 2011
14,093
Worthing
Anyone who votes for a party leader who makes up meeting constituents in a public park needs their head read.

The way our parliamentary election system works is that we don't vote for a Prime Minister, we vote for an M.P.,so technically speaking, the only people who vote for a party leader are those members of the Party , and associate members qualified to vote. The current Presidential style elections, are very undemocratic to my mind,as the media has far too much power at election time. None of the Party members can afford to be in the least bit independent, as spin doctors, media advisors etc, would jump on them from a great height
 


yxee

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2011
2,521
Manchester
Things are just going to get worse and worse and worse, for everyone except the filthy rich who are going to do more than alright out of all of this.

And people on low incomes and those being taxed a huge rate when they're really not that well off, i.e. those at ~50k
 


Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
Tax-free personal allowance to be raised from £10,500 to £12,500
40% rate raised from £41,900 to £50,000
Abolish zero-hour contracts
NHS budget protected

...and much, much more.

A veritable masterclass in how to deliver to an audience unlike forgetful Ed.

I hope Miliband has not paid a deposit for the removal men next year.

I always feel a little embarrassed when someone suffers an uncontrolled public ejaculation
 






abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,400
And disgusting the way he brings his disabled son into everything yet treats other disabled children and people like total and utter shit, he is a DISGRACE to all decent COMPASSIONATE people and I hope he has got his REMOVAL van booked for May 8th as he will need it

This sums up the fact that some people will NEVER vote Tory or give them a hearing and of course some people will NEVER vote Labour. All parties are really targeting the floating voter who has no particular allegiance bar what seems to be the best offer going at the time.

As one of those (I have voted for all three main parties in the past) I can only say that the differences between Cameron's and Milliband's speeches were marked. Cameron showed passion and commitment and actually offered more to the lowest paid than the Labour leader. But the main point is that Cameron can deliver because he and Osbourne know how to manage an economy. Milliband and Balls don't and no one can deliver anything positive unless the economy is strong.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
Tax-free personal allowance to be raised from £10,500 to £12,500
40% rate raised from £41,900 to £50,000
Abolish zero-hour contracts
NHS budget protected

...and much, much more.

A veritable masterclass in how to deliver to an audience unlike forgetful Ed.

I hope Miliband has not paid a deposit for the removal men next year.

What happened to the Tory statement that no matter how much the economy grows, there will be another huge raft of public spending cuts after the next General Election ?
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
Maybe scrapping the bedroom tax would help!...People who work hard should have more money to spend he said:lolol:
So many who work 40/50hrs a week and work their socks off will be much better off even on 14/15k?
You can't afford houses when you're young
You can't afford to rent your own flat
You're in a house share forever or you stay at your parents forever

Or you can go to university and hopefully get a job that pays 40/50k+ and then pay back your 30k you borrowed while being educated....Or you can go to university get your grades over 4/5 years and then take a minimum wage job because there isn't enough jobs available.

Who'd wanna be a youngster these days seriously?:nono:
 




brightoon

Member
Jun 13, 2011
48
Not sure if i dreamt this but didnt Osbourne state the other day that the next government will have to make a further £25 billion in cuts - so with the £17 billion shortfall due to the changes in tax, doesnt that mean the cuts will in fact have to total £42 billion ?. Who is going to pay for this ? As i say, i may have dreamt it !
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
Not sure if i dreamt this but didnt Osbourne state the other day that the next government will have to make a further £25 billion in cuts - so with the £17 billion shortfall due to the changes in tax, doesnt that mean the cuts will in fact have to total £42 billion ?. Who is going to pay for this ? As i say, i may have dreamt it !
The national debt will never be paid off..It's like a myth to be frank.They could easily pay the debt off by not going to war again,but obviously going to a pointless unwinnable war is nothing new.
 


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