[Football] "Brighton Struggle to Score Goals" Cliche

[Muzzy]

Great stats and sums up what I see. I wouldn’t have had a clue about the figures but our style of play tells me that we’re not as bad as many think we are.

Our higher than most set play conceded goals is because we give away far too many cheap free kicks and penalties. Against Newport on Sunday it felt like we gave away a free kick every time we conceded possession. Because of this we are giving our opponents a higher percentage opportunity for them to score. Turn it the other way around and our delivery in set piece situations is poor in comparison. We do have players that would score more from corners etc if the delivery was better.

Our scoring rates per attack must be a pretty low on average? Our final ball into the box is infuriating most of the time. We get into great positions and then either breakdown by heading into a cul de sac, or by not getting past the first defender with a cross. We don’t seem to get long shots on target which in turn means we don’t get the lucky deflected goals that many other sides seem to get.
I also feel that our strikers are a bit lightweight, and at the moment seem to be running through treacle.

These are just my opinions and not meant as a criticism to GP. I am firmly behind what we are trying to achieve. It’s just that something isn’t quite right with the balance of the team. If we don’t address the above issues then I do feel we could get relegated this season. How big a disaster that would be for the clubs long term view I don’t know, but I don’t think changing the manager is the answer.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

I think it stems from us looking so assured and confident in our play it beggars belief that we aren't knocking in goals. We look so good and others appreciate our style of football they cannot understand why we do do better.

 

[SEWDONIM]

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That really does alter the perspective; I suppose I can shift my position the moment we start scoring.

The problem is, we just need either a striker or a coach who can coach our players to better their technique.

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lens]

This is what me rage at Lescott last night.. The insinuation that we concentrate on playing "nice football" at the expense of trying to win the game.. its totally ridiculous. Backed up by the comment " I'm sure they would swap a good performance for a result"!! No S*@t Jolian! As if its a choice GP and the players make! No insight at all from him (or many other pundits it seems) as to how we might do that or recognition that possibly performances might give you a better chance of a result most of the time.

 

[Hamilton]

Our problem, is scoring more goals than the opposition. It's really rather simple!

 

[BrickTamland]

Didn’t know he got into punditry

 

[maltaseagull]

We all know that our conversion rate is poor and that our actual goals scored is well below our Xg. However, I'm starting to get totally sick of the lazy punditry that uses 'they play well but can't score goals' as the one line platitude expected to explain a very complex situation in a soundbite. We know that every team in the world would like to score more goals than they do, but this statement seems to be being applied to us and only us. Its annoying, because although it is a criticism that could be directed at us, it is not the most appropriate criticism of us and we are not the team that the criticism best applies to.

In simple goals scored - We are 12th with 22, Fulham, WBA, Burnley & Sheff Utd all have less than 15; https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/goals

In terms of goals per game - We are 13th, scoring on average approximately twice as many goals per game than the bottom three performers; https://www.soccerstats.com/table.asp?league=england&tid=d

In terms of games where we fail to score - We are joint 9th with 4, level with Chelsea, Leicester & Southampton; https://www.soccerstats.com/table.asp?league=england&tid=z

In terms of conversion rate - We are 15th, a place below Manchester City; https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1

Compare this with other stats that tell the story of our season and it suggests that the continued concentration on 'they can't score goals' is distracting from our real problems:

We are 16th in goals conceded: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/goals_conceded
17th for goals conceded per game; https://footystats.org/england/premier-league/goals-conceded-table
Joint 15th for goals conceded from set pieces; https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...amStatistics/England-Premier-League-2020-2021
Joint last for penalties conceded: https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...amStatistics/England-Premier-League-2020-2021

We know that we can't win games at home. We consistently find ways to draw games that we should win both home and away. There is a thread on here about the short amount of time that we hold onto a lead for. We're fourth from bottom on the number of fouls we commit, which may not be helping the number of set piece goals we concede. We are the leakiest team in the league in terms of how many chances it takes to score against us: https://experimental361.com/2020/12/26/scatter-graphics-premier-league-22-dec-2020/. We are also last in terms of team save percentage: https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepers/Premier-League-Stats.

Our position is frustrating as we are so close to being an effective team in this league. My own frustration is being added to by so many in the media consistently misdiagnosing our failings after a cursory glance at some highlights. I'm sorry about the stats overload, but thanks for giving me somewhere to vent. I've sensed from a couple of his comments that Potter is also a bit fed up with this being trotted out every time he faces the media. It can't be easy to instill the confidence needed to avoid self fulfilling prophecy in our attacking players, when nearly everyone with a shilling to earn from punditry is recycling the same simplistic rebuke.

'Brighton just can't score goals!' They say. Perhaps we need to respond with Ben Goldacre's mantra 'I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.'

I agree with the comments on the pundits. In fact it was quite funny listening out for the usual stuff last night. (Did you know Dan Burn is 6f foot 7?)

But the key performance indicator has us in 17th and quite likely to be 18th if current form continues.

There is also an alarming gap appearing between the bottom 5 and the rest.
I was really hoping we could progress this season after the good performances at the end of the restart and the beginning of this but since the WBA game we have dropped far too many points.

 

[b.w.2.]

My post was intended to deflect the misguided abuse coming at Neal Maupay and his colleagues. i think that they are getting criticism that their peers at other clubs around us are not getting. However, it's quite a leap to say that, had one of them been selected over Percy, we'd have got our first ever points at The Ethiad. Considering Sunday's 120 minutes and Leeds on Saturday night, Potter's selection was pretty much spot on. You may have noticed that the team that won the game also started with no recognised central striker. Is Pep Guardiola moronic too?

Have you noticed that Man City are good enough to play without strikers, whilst we are definitely not?

Also, I fully accept that we would almost certainly lose to Man City regardless, likewise Spurs, where Potter also stupidly opted for zero strikers. However, we could have easily have beaten the Gunners with a striker starter but Porter blew his team choice in tgat game too. His team pics are certainly NOT spot on.

Try to have your own thoughts on this. It may help


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[SeagullDubai]

Our problem, is scoring more goals than the opposition. It's really rather simple!

We are still learning


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[SeagullDubai]

There are a conveyor belt of managers who are hired by clubs in a relegation battle, they historically benefit from 'a new manager bounce' which lasts a few games. If Potter were to be replaced we would undoubtedly change our formation, become defensively more solid and win a game or two. It would undo years of building.

I wish Potter would address our defensive unit as it could be the basis for a significantly better 2nd half to the season

I wish spotter would also address our extremely slow build up and the constant flaffing around in the final third. The number of times we turned over possession against citeh and failed to take advantage was criminal.


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[Hamilton]

We are still learning how to shoot.


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Just added something to your comment for you.

 

[Stato]

Try to have your own thoughts on this. It may help

I suspect a subtext here. I think you'd actually like me to have your thoughts rather than mine. You don't seem to like me having mine.

Are you my wife in disguise?

 

[b.w.2.]

I suspect a subtext here. I think you'd actually like me to have your thoughts rather than mine. You don't seem to like me having mine.

Are you my wife in disguise?

lol [emoji23] you are right. I wish you agreed with me. TBH I cannot believe any of our fans cannot see our biggest problem is that we are missing Muzza 2. And I am NOT disputing our other squad gaps BTW


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[Danny Wilson Said]

We are still learning


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We are still not learning, more like.

In a related topic, why is it that when we score, we also concede (West Ham, Wolves)?

 

[warmleyseagull]

Indeed. And to add to stats that support this: 28 conceded so far, compared with 23, 24, 25 after 17 games in the three previous seasons. GS is similar to last 2 seasons and 7 ahead of 17/18 at same stage, when we had more points.