Vegas Seagull
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- Jul 10, 2009
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The wheel agreed to shut down after 5 years before being allowed to set up. Pathetic they are trying to renege
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Brighton i360 construction update.
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The wheel agreed to shut down after 5 years before being allowed to set up. Pathetic they are trying to renege
Hardly. I just think it would be a better use of his time than sitting in the pub and crossing his fingers that it doesn't go bust and cost him money.
I doubt it will be a white elephant.
That's the spirit.
What's underhand? A low interest central government facility (PWLB) was used to loan the cash to the the company running the attraction. It was independently vetted as a viable business. This is all very transparent and above board and a process used by many other councils.
Captain Sensible
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Why is it pathetic? It looked pretty busy to me this summer, why shouldn't it carry on? Most tourist cities have a wheel. I just don't get why the i360 lot are insisting the wheel comes down? Whats it got to do with them?
As I said I'd rather they renovated the arches instead of blowing it all on a giant chimney.
Blimey, really? Bargain. I will visit it often.
We need to give it a few test runs in perpetration for the Corbyn coronation party!
How many of them also have a 160m viewing tower?
You'd have rather the money was spent elsewhere, but it wasn't. It's being spent on the i360, so where you'd have preferred it to go isn't really relevant for the decision on whether we should keep the wheel. Personally I don't see the point of having both, and the i360 looks much more exciting, and will be about the same price for residents.
There's your answer, right there. Brighton is not "most cities."
Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
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Well, that and the fact that most tourist cities DON'T have a wheel.
Oh come on HT, there was a private backer who then pulled out - who exactly was this 'independent' vetter - a public body I think you mean. When you say it was transparent what do you mean ? There were EXACTLY two votes required to pass it on top of the Greens support - Theobald delivered EXACTLY those two votes. I've spoken to three current Tory councillors who were councillors then and they say that Theobald went against the party consensus to deliver those two votes. What deal did he do to get those votes ? Apparently there were moves afoot to remove him as leader because of this but it was decided it would ruin any chance of the Tories taking control of the council if they got rid of him so close to an election. I can't repeat the words of one Tory councillor about good old backhander Geoff.
If the project was viable then private backers would have paid for it.
PS - if I'd realised what an eyesore it would have been from my house I would have been a NIMBY. Utterly ugly and unnecessary but of course it wouldn't have done any good with the corruption involved.
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I seem to remember your predictions for 2015, however I know your being ironic lol
Captain Sensible
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Should have said most cities that are any good. Why take something away that is successful and is a tourist attraction? Just so the chimney has the best chance of getting business? I think that's a rather pathetic model. When your business plan only works if another attraction is dismantled. If the 360 is that good then it should be successful all by itself.
desprateseagull
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If i360 such a good thing, WHY is the council having to underwrite the loan?
Could set a dangerous precedent, opening themselves up to legal action, if don't back other schemes wanting funds..?
Could set a dangerous precedent, opening themselves up to legal action, if don't back other schemes wanting funds..?
One of the things with a tourist attraction, is that it can be good for a whole area, so while it may not make money on its own, overall it's good for the city.
It will not set a dangerous precedent because the PWLB is a route which has been used by many councils many times before. The precedent was set many years ago by someone else. There is nothing new or unique about this lending model.
I am guessing that the economics of the i360 were arrived at by assuming the wheel would stick to it's original planning application? The wheel is a bit shit anyway. I for one will not miss it.
That's because you're in Germany.
Jack Straw
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pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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Looks impressive and will offer great views, can't wait to give it a go when it opens!
Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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It is turning into one very impressive structure. I think this will be surprisingly successful venture. The i360's ridiculous size is sure to impress the day trippers and I sincerely hope that the fortunes of a now dowdy Preston St will be turned around as a result.