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[Albion] Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal *** Official Match Thread ***







Normandy seagull

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Reflecting on the defeat in the cold light of day- one thing strikes. Yes we’re are very brave under RDZ. But I think at times there is still a place for needing to be a bit more compact and balanced playing top 3 teams. Potter did that very well, CH not so with 12 men behind the ball.
 




Stat Brother

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I think Tross should be dropped for a couple of games, he didn't want to be there.
No he didn't want to be there.
He never wants to be a 'false 9'.

Playing Leandro in his least favoured position doesn't do anyone at the club, from Mr Bloom down to Mr Trossard, any favours at all.
 


Stat Brother

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In the cold light of day, I've come out swinging at an Armchair Arsenal colleague who couldn't wait to start the text bantz, last night:-

Europa Conference for your boys if they're going to poop the bed that badly every time the opposition attack.
You'll not win anything playing that scared.
 




chaileyjem

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I think Tross should be dropped for a couple of games, he didn't want to be there.
Being frustrated with his form or things not coming off tactically - it happens - but does not mean (and how would you know) that he “doesn’t want to be there” or any of the other suggestions such as he hibernates for the winter! , or has already accepted he’s being sold and “looks miserable”.
 


amexer

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I think Tross should be dropped for a couple of games, he didn't want to be there.
I would never leave him out. Always capable of doing something different. Poor as a lone striker if like yesterday midfielders didnt get near him. Surprised taken off as Ferguson coming on was the support he needed.
 








Paulie Gualtieri

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Reflecting on the defeat in the cold light of day- one thing strikes. Yes we’re are very brave under RDZ. But I think at times there is still a place for needing to be a bit more compact and balanced playing top 3 teams. Potter did that very well, CH not so with 12 men behind the ball.
This, even 3-1 down still genuinely believed we could get a point.

Appreciative of the effort to move forward regardless of the current score line.

Great to see he’s started blooding the youth as well
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Based on watching the highlights, a 2 minute interview and the fact he’s not plastered in tattoos I’m very encouraged by Ferguson. I feel he has a future.
 


Bodian

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The MacAllister Goal against Leicester (for sheer quality and wow factor), and the Mitoma Goal last night (for what it meant in timing, context and momentum) are the two most 'thrilling' goals VAR have ruined for me - for no real reason. Not one person would have considered either of those goals to be offside, not one person would have complained if they had stood.

Still ruining football for me I'm afraid.
 


Seasider78

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The MacAllister Goal against Leicester (for sheer quality and wow factor), and the Mitoma Goal last night (for what it meant in timing, context and momentum) are the two most 'thrilling' goals VAR have ruined for me - for no real reason. Not one person would have considered either of those goals to be offside, not one person would have complained if they had stood.

Still ruining football for me I'm afraid.
Exactly no player, manager or fan appealed either of these goals yet a referee miles away in a portacabin with his rule book and ruler in hand pours over ever possible reason to chalk it off and ruin the game. I have hated VAR since the idea was first floated and hate it even more now it is in and functioning it is a goal prevention system and is sucking the life out the game.
 






dwayne

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That 3rd goal was so marginal it is no wonder some subscribe to a Big 6 conspiracy theory. The move starts from a throw-in so Mitoma is not “coming back from an off-side position.” The brush off Fergies shoulder is so marginal nobody in the ground said anything. Alan Smith speculated that they were looking for a possible handball.

They still work so hard to find any excuse to write-off a goal you have to wonder if the officials actually hate the game!
Alan Smith was a disgrace last night.

How could they have a commentator that blatantly biased on, it was unbearable. The second goal he wanted chalked off as well, felt like a conspiracy listening to that nonsense. Also the fact that after 2-0 the commentators completely wrote off the game. I would have loved it if we had got it back to 4-4.

Other weird thing for me last night was hearing all the chants about supporting your local team. I was sat in North London watching the game so it was confusing to me. Do loads of kids now support arsenal in Sussex ?
 


Arthritic Toe

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There's 100% a second touch - just had a look at the recording. So I'm absolutely not having it that it's factually offside and I think they have it wrong (assuming the offside does have to be measured from the 2nd touch).
Judging by the var pictures they were showing at the time, they were looking for that 2nd touch and not seeing it.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Exactly no player, manager or fan appealed either of these goals yet a referee miles away in a portacabin with his rule book and ruler in hand pours over ever possible reason to chalk it off and ruin the game. I have hated VAR since the idea was first floated and hate it even more now it is in and functioning it is a goal prevention system and is sucking the life out the game.
I think VAR could be drastically improved if it was used with the spirit of the offside law as opposed to the letter. The law was brought in to deter players from hanging around high up field and waiting for a direct long ball. The intent and purpose of the law achieved its aim with Mitoma’s goal. But to make it workable it needs clear and well defined rules so we end up with a great goal being disallowing on a technicality. It’s quite simple, make those stupid lines a lot thicker so only very obvious offsides are given. If the FA said they’d do this I struggle to think anyone will object.
 




Triggaaar

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In the cold light of day, I've come out swinging at an Armchair Arsenal colleague who couldn't wait to start the text bantz, last night:-

Europa Conference for your boys if they're going to poop the bed that badly every time the opposition attack.
You'll not win anything playing that scared.
I'd just tell him to fuckoff, and then block him
 


Stat Brother

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I'd just tell him to fuckoff, and then block him
I think I have, by virtue his lack of reply to my final text.
(He's a man who likes the last word - oddly I can't be doing with that in text form)

Just being realistic, hanging on for 3 points against our youth team is hardly title winning form.

and finally (armchair thought we were only missing Welbz)

Plus £150,000,000 worth of midfield and 2 defenders.
Finished with 5 teenagers on the pitch and your boys shit the bed every time we attacked
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