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[Albion] Brighton & Hove Albion vs Arsenal *** Official Match Thread ***



PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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Just watched MOTD. Not sure the commentators realised we had 4 first choice players missing , two of who are vital or indeed even noticed our players were on the park. In the sum up they said basically how they won't collapse because they are so good yet they conceded 3 goals (yes one chalked off but it did not affect how they defended it) and whilst they didn't show it pretty sure it was a penalty based on very clear shirt pull on Sarmiento.

I sit in Upper WSU near halfway line, Dunk and Colwill could have passed the ball out much quicker., they missed lots of runs. Think manager should have started with Veltman , a much better defender than Lamptey and it was more important considering we were missing Caicedo. It was also evident that we had little pace in the team when defending and our midfield couldn't get back which I guess adding Veltman would have made worse BUT I don't think he would have been caught out so easily.
Yes our midfield was more Thomas the Tank Engine as opposed to their Bullet Trains. It was a painful watch sometimes.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Totally agree, it tries to be 'scientific' but still comes down to a human making a decision.....
I’m always reminded of Danny Bakers “one‘s enough, how can even more referees make the game better?” response to the introduction of the 4th official.
 


Yoda

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I think VAR could be drastically improved if it was used with the spirit of the offside law as opposed to the letter. The law was brought in to deter players from hanging around high up field and waiting for a direct long ball. The intent and purpose of the law achieved its aim with Mitoma’s goal. But to make it workable it needs clear and well defined rules so we end up with a great goal being disallowing on a technicality. It’s quite simple, make those stupid lines a lot thicker so only very obvious offsides are given. If the FA said they’d do this I struggle to think anyone will object.
One improvement I would like to see with the offside ruling when it comes to VAR, is to let the on field assistant (linesman) to make the initial call (even if they think it is marginal, still flag) and then use VAR to decide if they were right. Not putting every goal under the microscope.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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One improvement I would like to see with the offside ruling when it comes to VAR, is to let the on field assistant (linesman) to make the initial call (even if they think it is marginal, still flag) and then use VAR to decide if they were right. Not putting every goal under the microscope.
If they flag marginal decisions they might stop play for a legitimate opportunity though? I personally think the lino should just get on with their job and flag as they see fit. If they allow a goal which is then subsequently deemed offside, chalk it off. If they flag, and stop a legitimate opportunity….oh well.
 


Yoda

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If they flag marginal decisions they might stop play for a legitimate opportunity though? I personally think the lino should just get on with their job and flag as they see fit. If they allow a goal which is then subsequently deemed offside, chalk it off. If they flag, and stop a legitimate opportunity….oh well.
In that first instance, they should still keep their flag down until the move breaks down like they do now though.
 




jackanada

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If they flag marginal decisions they might stop play for a legitimate opportunity though? I personally think the lino should just get on with their job and flag as they see fit. If they allow a goal which is then subsequently deemed offside, chalk it off. If they flag, and stop a legitimate opportunity….oh well.
I suspect that pre VAR mitomas first goal would have been incorrectly flagged. Conversely the disallowed second would never have even aroused suspicion.
 


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