Brighton giving young players ........

[Herr Tubthumper]

Are you saying 'Nein means nein' HT?

Ja!

 

[KZNSeagull]

Part of me is surprised that this needs to be taught to people. Is it really that confusing?

The more that is taught to any child/young adult in your charge the better surely? At least if something/someone does go awry, the club cannot be accused of not doing enough.

 

[BBassic]

Part of me is surprised that this needs to be taught to people. Is it really that confusing?

For some it is, yes. In much the same way that some people should be taught murder is not a good thing.

People, all of us, we're all wired differently; some more so than others and its great to see the club realising that and taking proactive steps to influence and teach young minds.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Surely it should just cover the law, and not getting into trouble with it. Any issues relating to respect and what is morally okay are subjective.

Depressing.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

For some it is, yes. In much the same way that some people should be taught murder is not a good thing.

People, all of us, we're all wired differently; some more so than others and its great to see the club realising that and taking proactive steps to influence and teach young minds.

Why stop at rape training then? Why not also have courses to alleviate the grey areas with shoplifting, drink driving and knife crime? It's a mine field out there after all.

 

[nwgull]

This post perfectly answers your own question.

No it doesn't. You don't even know me. I have never broken any laws in my life, or ever been in any trouble with the police (I've not even had a speeding fine), yet you are suggesting tha I need to go on a course aimed at young footballers on how to avoid any ambiguity over consent. So I ask again: why do you think that I need to to go on this course?

 

[8ace]

Maybe they thought the message was more likely to sink in if put across as not getting yourself into trouble, as oppose to a lecture on morality and women's rights

 

[Napier's Knee]

In The Guardian too...
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/brighton-players-sexual-consent

This really is excellent and shows how our club is trying to do all the right things. Combine this with the news about the Downs Syndrome football tournament yesterday and we really do have a lot to be proud about. In Bloom and Barber I trust!

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Maybe they thought the message was more likely to sink in if put across as not getting yourself into trouble, as oppose to a lecture on morality and women's rights

That's probably a good point. To be fair, I'd imagine that the course DID cover respect as well, I was just suggesting that the reporting made it look like it was only about avoiding legal strife.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

While this is good in theory. Still won't stop certain women crying rape or whatever when it comes to trying to extort money from players or trying to get free publicity. Knowing the British judicial system it won't be much help as our laws rarely listen to the mans side of the story

Then it will please the mysoginist in you to know that this training was delivered to ALL the Albion's young players - both male and female.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Excellent move by the club. Good to see us taking a proactive stance on this issue.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Surely it should just cover the law, and not getting into trouble with it. Any issues relating to respect and what is morally okay are subjective.

I find your viewpoint rather depressing. I'd like to think a little higher of these young people, and afford them the credit, that educating them about respect and decency is just as likely to bear fruit, as teaching them about the jail terms they are liable for if they get caught.

 

[Stat Brother]

I'm actually more embarrassed than proud about this. Are young footballers really that ****ing thick that they need to be taught these things? Some things about this sport really disgust me.

Are young footballers really that ****ing thick that they need to be taught these things?
Or
Are young footballers really that entitled, mollycoddled and egomaniacal (feel free to add your own) that they need to be taught these things?
Sadly, history would say yes they do.

 

[SteveTheSeagull]

Then it will please the mysoginist in you to know that this training was delivered to ALL the Albion's young players - both male and female.

Sorry but not once did i say anything about hating women. I just stated what seems to be fact about our court systems. The leverage that a woman's word has in court has far more weight on it than a mans ever does.

 

[SAC]

Are young footballers really that ****ing thick that they need to be taught these things?
Or
Are young footballers really that entitled, mollycoddled and egomaniacal (feel free to add your own) that they need to be taught these things?
Sadly, history would say yes they do.

Exactly.

They shouldn't need to be taught it but quite obviously some do.

 

[SAC]

Sorry but not once did i say anything about hating women. I just stated what seems to be fact about our court systems. The leverage that a woman's word has in court has far more weight on it than a mans ever does.

Do you have anything, say some facts, to back up this frankly bizarre statement?

 

[nwgull]

I find your viewpoint rather depressing. I'd like to think a little higher of these young people, and afford them the credit, that educating them about respect and decency is just as likely to bear fruit, as teaching them about the jail terms they are liable for if they get caught.

I find your viewpoint confusing. You want to think highly of these youngsters, yet you feel that they are intrinsically bad people and need to go on a course to learn morals? Make up your mind.

 

[SteveTheSeagull]

Do you have anything, say some facts, to back up this frankly bizarre statement?

While i don't have "Facts" in written term. I think you'll find it's pretty obvious with most of the cases shown/written in the media.

 

[Easy 10]

Fact is, young footballers are often thickos. When you mix in shedloads of cash (comparative to anyone in a 'normal' job) and the ego that goes with it, then you have a potentially dangerous combo there for any youngster.

I'd agree with other who've said that Issues of consent shouldn't *need* to be taught, but given the above factors, its no bad thing that the club are being proactive, tackling the issue head on and raising awareness.

Of course once the player is pissed up out and about on the town and the opportunity presents itself, anything he's learned on this course could still go straight out the window.

 

[SAC]

While i don't have "Facts" in written term. I think you'll find it's pretty obvious with most of the cases shown/written in the media.

Not obvious to me. I think our courts (now) are fairly good at deciding the merits of a case without taking one side over the other based on their sex.