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brightonmark1234

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Albion can't afford to buy British

5:00pm Friday 4th January 2013 in Albion By Andy Naylor


Gus Poyet would love to sign someone like Jason Roberts, pictured playing against Albion last season
Albion have gone abroad for a striker, because they cannot afford to buy British.

Boss Gus Poyet says he would love to sign somebody like Jason Roberts but the Seagulls’ budget for transfer fees and wages means they are concentrating their search overseas.

Albion remain in the hunt for £1.6 million rated Argentinian striker Leonardo Ulloa from Spanish Second Division club Almeria, although the deal is dependent on him securing an EU passport.

Reading were eighth in the Championship, one place higher than Albion’s current position, when they signed Roberts at the end of the January 2012 transfer window and he spearheaded their charge to the title.


Poyet, preparing his side for tomorrow’s FA Cup showdown against Newcastle at The Amex, said: “In England one of the biggest problems is that when it’s a very good British player it’s so expensive.

“That player will jump in your team and perform the next day because he’s used to the division, the weather, the pitches, the quantity of games.

“Those players we cannot afford. so then you have to find a similar player abroad. They can adapt after one day or month or they can take a year or two.

“The biggest example is Ronaldo. What a player in his second year and his third. I think we have to go that route because of the money.

“Jason Roberts at that time (last year) was one of the best players in the division. He made an impact. If you are able to bring that kind of player in, and pay him, he’ll make an impact and then you’ll have a great chance, especially when you have a striker with his characteristics.

“I would love to (sign Roberts). He (Reading manager Brian McDermott) would probably say no or ‘you’ll have to pay all his wages,’ which we can’t. It’s tough.

“For us at the moment it’s not possible but we’re trying. I’m trying to convince the chairman. We’ll get there. “In the five or six games we didn’t win at the Amex – and I’m not talking about Watford – if one of those players was here, I’m sure we would have got four wins from six, and then we’re probably third or fourth. That’s a big difference, because with another eight or nine points we would be big contenders for the top two.”

Ulloa, part-owned by a third party connected with his former Spanish club Castellon, has a gentleman’s agreement with the club president of Almeria to move in January or the summer.

He has been linked with Espanyol, Real Betis and Celta Vigo but they want a player exchange and he would prefer a move to England rather than Italy.

Ulloa is in the Almeria squad to play Girona on Sunday lunchtime. He is competing for a place with Brazilian rival Charles, who has overtaken him since signing from Cordoba in the summer.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Albion can't afford to buy British

5:00pm Friday 4th January 2013 in Albion By Andy Naylor


Gus Poyet would love to sign someone like Jason Roberts, pictured playing against Albion last season
Albion have gone abroad for a striker, because they cannot afford to buy British.

Boss Gus Poyet says he would love to sign somebody like Jason Roberts but the Seagulls’ budget for transfer fees and wages means they are concentrating their search overseas.

Albion remain in the hunt for £1.6 million rated Argentinian striker Leonardo Ulloa from Spanish Second Division club Almeria, although the deal is dependent on him securing an EU passport.

Reading were eighth in the Championship, one place higher than Albion’s current position, when they signed Roberts at the end of the January 2012 transfer window and he spearheaded their charge to the title.


Poyet, preparing his side for tomorrow’s FA Cup showdown against Newcastle at The Amex, said: “In England one of the biggest problems is that when it’s a very good British player it’s so expensive.

“That player will jump in your team and perform the next day because he’s used to the division, the weather, the pitches, the quantity of games.

“Those players we cannot afford. so then you have to find a similar player abroad. They can adapt after one day or month or they can take a year or two.

“The biggest example is Ronaldo. What a player in his second year and his third. I think we have to go that route because of the money.

“Jason Roberts at that time (last year) was one of the best players in the division. He made an impact. If you are able to bring that kind of player in, and pay him, he’ll make an impact and then you’ll have a great chance, especially when you have a striker with his characteristics.

“I would love to (sign Roberts). He (Reading manager Brian McDermott) would probably say no or ‘you’ll have to pay all his wages,’ which we can’t. It’s tough.

“For us at the moment it’s not possible but we’re trying. I’m trying to convince the chairman. We’ll get there. “In the five or six games we didn’t win at the Amex – and I’m not talking about Watford – if one of those players was here, I’m sure we would have got four wins from six, and then we’re probably third or fourth. That’s a big difference, because with another eight or nine points we would be big contenders for the top two.”

Ulloa, part-owned by a third party connected with his former Spanish club Castellon, has a gentleman’s agreement with the club president of Almeria to move in January or the summer.

He has been linked with Espanyol, Real Betis and Celta Vigo but they want a player exchange and he would prefer a move to England rather than Italy.

Ulloa is in the Almeria squad to play Girona on Sunday lunchtime. He is competing for a place with Brazilian rival Charles, who has overtaken him since signing from Cordoba in the summer.


2 points come out of that:

1. Roberts must be on very high wages
2. Didnt the FL outlaw 3rd party ownerships over the Tevez affair.
 


Del Fenner

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Sep 5, 2011
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Is there a misprint in the title? Does Gus really go shopping at Argos?

Good luck for tomorrow Mark, I'm backing your team for a win. :)
 


Munchkin

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Jul 12, 2005
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Anyone else noticed how many references Gus had made to Roberts.

Sending out a message and blowing smoke up his arse in the hope we could do some kind of deal ?

Certainly making it known he is what we are looking for.
 






Jul 5, 2003
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Polegate
Can't take any moans from Gus about the value of English strikers seriously when he paid £2.5m for CMS, while he didn't think the top scorer in the division was worth keeping.
 


HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
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Can't take any moans from Gus about the value of English strikers seriously when he paid £2.5m for CMS, while he didn't think the top scorer in the division was worth keeping.

Thats peanuts compared to the £8 Million for Jordan Rhodes or the £50 Gazillion that Palace want for Zaha - thats what hes on about. Argus are a bit slow as this was in the news a few days ago.

Foreign players are cheaper, though that would have something to do with countries like Spain being up shit creek with their economy so they do need the money.
 






Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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2 points come out of that:

1. Roberts must be on very high wages
2. Didnt the FL outlaw 3rd party ownerships over the Tevez affair.

The wages would be very high.

Madjeski and his new business partner, took a gamble for PL promotion and upped their wages massively last year. He would be on far more than the weekly contribution we are making to Bridge's wages for example.
 


Stat Brother

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I said it post Ipswich, Roberts was only effective for Reading because the rest of the team were weighing in with goals.

If Gus signs him he'd just a big bloke for the centre halfs to out muscle, instead of a little one.

Until our current team work over the opposition defence no centre forward will flourish in our current set up.
 






Horses Arse

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Jun 25, 2004
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The wages would be very high.

Madjeski and his new business partner, took a gamble for PL promotion and upped their wages massively last year. He would be on far more than the weekly contribution we are making to Bridge's wages for example.

I heard Roberts is on £30k per week. No fee meant that was ok by Reading. Told by a reading fan, not sure how reliable it is.
 




Weststander

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Thats peanuts compared to the £8 Million for Jordan Rhodes or the £50 Gazillion that Palace want for Zaha - thats what hes on about. Argus are a bit slow as this was in the news a few days ago.

Foreign players are cheaper, though that would have something to do with countries like Spain being up shit creek with their economy so they do need the money.

It's not just the headline fee.

The likes of Rhodes, Austin .... Know how sought after they are, for example from PL clubs or PL parachute-income clubs with income twice ours, and so can demand mega wages.

Cardiff and Leicester are prepared to take the financial gamble for promotion, but I suppose quite rightly Bloom and Barber at this stage are not.
 




Superphil

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Is there a misprint in the title? Does Gus really go shopping at Argos?

Good luck for tomorrow Mark, I'm backing your team for a win. :)

Do Argos sell strikers?
 


Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
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I said it post Ipswich, Roberts was only effective for Reading because the rest of the team were weighing in with goals.

If Gus signs him he'd just a big bloke for the centre halfs to out muscle, instead of a little one.

Until our current team work over the opposition defence no centre forward will flourish in our current set up.

Can agree with that, yes the last few games excluding Ipswich havent been great but the majority of the season we have created loads of chances and hit the woodwork ridiuclous amount of times. Look at the Bolton game , Hoskins should of had a hat trick by HT.
 




Jul 5, 2003
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Err....CMS is Scottish so the point is still valid

No, he's English but qualifies to play for Scotland. If you have a Welsh granny but you're English, you've lived in English your whole life, your mum and dad are english - does that make you Welsh?

CMS was the top scorer in league 1 NOT Murray.
CMS also outscored Murray last season.

Who was better value for money?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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It's not just the headline fee.

The likes of Rhodes, Austin .... Know how sought after they are, for example from PL clubs or PL parachute-income clubs with income twice ours, and so can demand mega wages.

Cardiff and Leicester are prepared to take the financial gamble for promotion, but I suppose quite rightly Bloom and Barber at this stage are not.


Huddersfield paid £350k for Rhodes and Burnley paid £1.5m for Austin. Strikers don't have to be mega-bucks.
 


Guy Fawkes

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Sep 29, 2007
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No, he's English but qualifies to play for Scotland. If you have a Welsh granny but you're English, you've lived in English your whole life, your mum and dad are english - does that make you Welsh?

It makes him Scottish in the eyes of the authorities or he wouldn't be able to play international football for them (but i guess it was a whooosh from you there as it was said tongue in cheek)

Who was better value for money?

Last season - CMS
 


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