[Albion] Brighton Buses to replace bendy buses with double deckers

[Super Steve Earle]

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2022/04/26/bye-bye-to-brightons-bendy-buses/

Aren't these the park n ride buses? Double deckers won't go under the bridge at Mill Road. Could mean capacity problems for P +R next season?

 

[Chicken Run]

I thought the buses enter and exit from the Dyke Road Avenue roundabout?


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[Westdene Seagull]

I thought the buses enter and exit from the Dyke Road Avenue roundabout?


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Nope - enter from the bottom and exit at the top.

 

[Chicken Run]

Nope - enter from the bottom and exit at the top.

Oh well, with a little planning I’m sure the can enter and exit at the top ?


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[Westdene Seagull]

Oh well, with a little planning I’m sure the can enter and exit at the top ?


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Impossible to turn a bus on Mill Road when half the road has parked cars on it.

 

[Chicken Run]

Impossible to turn a bus on Mill Road when half the road has parked cars on it.

What about using the entrance to Waterhall, drive past, reverse in and drive out?


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[Stat Brother]

The club could buy a Chinook helicopter.
Have it hover over the BP garage.
As a bus approaches it lowers a platform.
The bus drives onto it.
Then the helicopter can easily lift the bus over the bridge.


Happy to help.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

What about using the entrance to Waterhall, drive past, reverse in and drive out?


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You should see the challenge on match day - there is no space for two way traffic - which is what you're suggesting. At the time I get there there's always at least three buses on the road. So even if it is possible to turn a bus next to Waterhall - and I'd suggest that would be difficult anyway - how do you get your turned bus to go up the hill with other buses coming down ? And that doesn't even take into consideration getting the cars in. The way this P&R will work is with a one way system and that isn't possible with double deckers. And throw in the condition that Waterhall has to be accessable to users all the time this is going on.

I'd suggest the best solution is the club buy the bendy buses and run that site entirely themselves.

 

[Guinness Boy]

You should see the challenge on match day - there is no space for two way traffic - which is what you're suggesting. At the time I get there there's always at least three buses on the road. So even if it is possible to turn a bus next to Waterhall - and I'd suggest that would be difficult anyway - how do you get your turned bus to go up the hill with other buses coming down ? And that doesn't even take into consideration getting the cars in. The way this P&R will work is with a one way system and that isn't possible with double deckers. And throw in the condition that Waterhall has to be accessable to users all the time this is going on.

I'd suggest the best solution is the club buy the bendy buses and run that site entirely themselves.

Yes, but APART from that....

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Yes, but APART from that....

Maybe a drawbridge on the tunnel at the bottom ?

 

[Chicken Run]

You should see the challenge on match day - there is no space for two way traffic - which is what you're suggesting. At the time I get there there's always at least three buses on the road. So even if it is possible to turn a bus next to Waterhall - and I'd suggest that would be difficult anyway - how do you get your turned bus to go up the hill with other buses coming down ? And that doesn't even take into consideration getting the cars in. The way this P&R will work is with a one way system and that isn't possible with double deckers. And throw in the condition that Waterhall has to be accessable to users all the time this is going on.

I'd suggest the best solution is the club buy the bendy buses and run that site entirely themselves.

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[Guinness Boy]

The real answer is, of course, that we should be ok with that much notice so long as someone has planned and sourced a sufficient number of alternative single deckers. In other words.....

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Well, that should make public transport easier for our ageing population.

 

[Curious Orange]

You do know that Mill Road was used as a Park & Ride by the Albion before the bendy-buses came to Brighton?

Worked just fine with standard single-deckers as I recall...

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Probably best to finally bite the bullet and just build the monorail.

 

[timbha]

Sure I read somewhere that Mill Road is going to be used for Park n Ride on non match days (for access to the town). Hope there’s been some joined up thinking here

 

[Gwylan]

Sure I read somewhere that Mill Road is going to be used for Park n Ride on non match days (for access to the town). Hope there’s been some joined up thinking here

The bus company pulled out of that scheme a couple of days ago

 

[surrey jim]

Sure I read somewhere that Mill Road is going to be used for Park n Ride on non match days (for access to the town). Hope there’s been some joined up thinking here

Bus company wouldn't support this and there was talk the South Downs national park authority would approve.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/20094845.brighton-park-ride-scheme-axed-bus-company-pulls/

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The bus company pulled out of that scheme a couple of days ago

Indeed - using the reason that an RTO, planning permission and signage were required and would take too long. The cynic in me suggests the subject matter in this thread is more likely to be the reason for their pull out.

 

[Badger Boy]

Brighton and Hove Buses currently do not have any non-training single decker buses in their fleet. The Bendys get 5mpg, they're not allowed up North Street in the City's "ultra low emissions zone" because they're deadly. B&H have been looking to offload them for a while and there's no value in them getting single deckers. The last time they did was for the expansion for the route 50 to Hollingdean but there was no upturn in passenger numbers so they ditched the increased frequency and whacked doubles back on the route. The single deckers went to the 18 route but have since been flogged. The Go Ahead group have plenty of singlers, presumably the Park and Ride will be serviced by those but it might be more expensive as they'll have to travel into the City in order to run the service rather than using local B&H buses.