Brighton away at Crewe today

[Yorkie]

I feel it's probably his professional attitude and commitment to the team that helped him make it with all those managers.

I think he can still do a job for us but it must be through the middle of the team.
Unless someone with a bit of pace can be close enough to strike when he does get left flatfooted.
I must admit it does leave us a bit vulnerable against pace on his side but i have every faith that Deano will make the right decisions on all positions when he has to.

That is a good analysis and well thought through rather than all this 'Mayo is crap' sort of postings.

 

[Scotty Mac]

That still doesn't explain why ten different managers of the Albion have played Kerry Mayo. They must see something in him that you don't.

Ok then, the ten managers:

Brady - central midfield
Gritt - Mayo played central midfield with a degree of success
Horton - Mayo played central midfield
Wood - Too short to count
Adams - Competition was Jamie Campbell, we need left back, Mayo fits in there. Summed up by the fact that his squad number was 19. Tried to replace him with Jones, who turned out to be a left winger.
Taylor - See above
Hinshelwood - Not long enough in the job
Coppell - No argument, he was fantastic that year
McGhee - Harding, end of.
Wilkins - How many games did Rents play last year?

 

[Black Country Seagull]

Ok then, the ten managers:

Brady - central midfield
Gritt - Mayo played central midfield with a degree of success
Horton - Mayo played central midfield
Wood - Too short to count
Adams - Competition was Jamie Campbell, we need left back, Mayo fits in there. Summed up by the fact that his squad number was 19. Tried to replace him with Jones, who turned out to be a left winger.
Taylor - See above
Hinshelwood - Not long enough in the job
Coppell - No argument, he was fantastic that year
McGhee - Harding, end of.
Wilkins - How many games did Rents play last year?

Coppell played in mainly in the centre as part of a back 3, and he was cracking - the problem for mayo, is not just his pace, but the covering centre backs pace, if it is him and butters, they both get exposed and make each other look poor.

On another note, as my car broke down, i went to watch walsall today, and to be fair we should pick points of them and carlise. With out Mooney, Walsall were lacking any form punch. A team with quick wingers or a central midfield will cause walsall many problems. Walsall keeper does not like to come for 50 50 balls and that was how carlisle took there only chance of the game. Carlise took 1800 fans today, quite impressive i thought.

 

[Scotty Mac]

A team with quick wingers or a central midfield will cause walsall many problems.

We won't be causing Walsall any problems then

 

[Gully]

BCS - you were lucky that you didn't go, at many places the traffic on the M6 was a crawl at best...it took me over two and a half hours to get there from Gloucester...one hour less on the journey home.

 

[dougdeep]

Ok then, the ten managers:

Brady - central midfield
Gritt - Mayo played central midfield with a degree of success
Horton - Mayo played central midfield
Wood - Too short to count
Adams - Competition was Jamie Campbell, we need left back, Mayo fits in there. Summed up by the fact that his squad number was 19. Tried to replace him with Jones, who turned out to be a left winger.
Taylor - See above
Hinshelwood - Not long enough in the job
Coppell - No argument, he was fantastic that year
McGhee - Harding, end of.
Wilkins - How many games did Rents play last year?

You missed out Case.

 

[Black Country Seagull]

BCS - you were lucky that you didn't go, at many places the traffic on the M6 was a crawl at best...it took me over two and a half hours to get there from Gloucester...one hour less on the journey home.

with no air con either, it could have been painfull

 

[Black Country Seagull]

We won't be causing Walsall any problems then

Cox and robinson should have a field day I would imagine, on a promising note however, who ever plays right back will have a stroll, down the right they have a bloke called fox who won't take anybody on or even attempt to get in behind the full back.

 

[Les Biehn]

That is a good analysis and well thought through rather than all this 'Mayo is crap' sort of postings.

You say that like noone has ever given a decent indepth reason for why they think Mayo shouldn't be in the team but me and others have. Yet all you ever come up with is the '10 managers' scenario which has been pretty much blown out of the ground by comments from others but mainly Scotty M.

I'm sure you won't pay any attention to that though.

 

[dougdeep]

You say that like noone has ever given a decent indepth reason for why they think Mayo shouldn't be in the team but me and others have. Yet all you ever come up with is the '10 managers' scenario which has been pretty much blown out of the ground by comments from others but mainly Scotty M.

I'm sure you won't pay any attention to that though.

It's an opinion, that's what this is all about.

 

[Yorkie]

You say that like noone has ever given a decent indepth reason for why they think Mayo shouldn't be in the team but me and others have. Yet all you ever come up with is the '10 managers' scenario which has been pretty much blown out of the ground by comments from others but mainly Scotty M.

I'm sure you won't pay any attention to that though.

I don't see how Scotty M has blown it out of the water. Harding only played one season under McGhee and was injured for part of that so therefore Mayo played for the rest of the time.
Fans can bleat about Mayo as much as they want, the fact is that managers play him.

 

[Les Biehn]

I don't see how Scotty M has blown it out of the water. Harding only played one season under McGhee and was injured for part of that so therefore Mayo played for the rest of the time.
Fans can bleat about Mayo as much as they want, the fact is that managers play him.

And you can bleat on about managers playing him, the fact is you won't entertain any reasons for this that may be negative and show it's not as clear cut as you make out.

 

[Yorkie]

It just goes to show that opinions differ then.
It's manager's opinions that count though.

 

[Les Biehn]

It just goes to show that opinions differ then.
It's manager's opinions that count though.

Count for what? They're not absolute.

And lets be honest we are talking about 2 managers opinions, one who prefered Harding.

 

[Yorkie]

Count for what? They're not absolute.

You don't understand what I am getting at, do you?
Managers pick the team, sell and buy players. It doesn't matter what the fans think.

 

[Les Biehn]

You don't understand what I am getting at, do you?
Managers pick the team, sell and buy players. It doesn't matter what the fans think.

Don't patronise me, considering how long it takes you to understand things it's a bit rich me thinks.

When fans are having a debate about whether Mayo is good enough then what fans think does matter.

Going down the road that you're suggesting what point would it be debating anything that you have no effect on?

 

[Yorkie]

Don't patronise me, considering how long it takes you to understand things it's a bit rich me thinks.

When fans are having a debate about whether Mayo is good enough then what fans think does matter.

Going down the road that your suggesting what point would it be debating anything that you have no effect on?

I wasn't patronising you. If you perceived that to be the case then I am sorry.

 

[Les Biehn]

I wasn't patronising you. If you perceived that to be the case then I am sorry.

Bit of an odd way to phrase it of you weren't but fair enough, I accept you apology and offer one for my curt reply.

 

[Les Biehn]

To lay it out and to show I'm not just slagging Mayo off here is my opinion.

I think Mayo can do a job as a back up in midfield, mainly the centre. His pace doesn't cause as much trouble as there is a line of defence behind him and also due to this he seems to relax more and his passing improves. He can tackle as well.

I like Mouldys point about the lack of pace on the left side. However Guy can get away with it because at CB it is easier to close mark a striker than a winger. Also even when Lynch is on the left of centre he can't keep coming across to cover Mayo, firstly because he may not be able to and secondly because it may affect his game.

Mayo is slow, has poor positional sense at LB and panics with the ball at his feet in defence. He can put in a decent tackle which saves him at times but a tricky winger with pace is a big problem for him and he often gets caught out when they go inside of him. This is less of a problem when Lynch is playing because it is easier for him to stifle. Still why should he have to, any coach would tell you that a player shouldn't jeapodise his own position because another player has made a mistake.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

We were talking about mayo on the wa home today - and he is utterly frustrating, because he can be absolutely brilliant at times, yet not so at others - like today in the space of 10 minutes he controlled the ball which had been kicked miles up in the air with one touch, and then 2 minutes later he gives an absolutely shocking "pass" down the sideline!!

It's when he thinks about it that he has trouble - his instinctive passes are brilliant!