[Politics] Brexit

[JC Footy Genius]

It rather sounds like it's more of the same in many ways...

Page 6 of the agreement pre-amble setting out the terms...

'BELIEVING in the benefits of a predictable commercial environment that fosters trade and investment
between them and prevents distortion of trade and unfair competitive advantages, in a manner
conducive to sustainable development in its economic, social and environmental dimensions,

RECOGNISING the need for an ambitious, wide-ranging and balanced economic partnership to be
underpinned by a level playing field for open and fair competition and sustainable development,
through effective and robust frameworks for subsidies and competition and a commitment to uphold
their respective high levels of protection in the areas of labour and social standards, environment, the
fight against climate change, and taxation

Suggest you start reading.

Suggest you don't selectively quote a few sections if you think it's just more of the same ... where's the bit about the ECJ interpreting and ruling on who has breached the agreement?

 

[Eeyore]

Suggest you don't selectively quote a few sections if you think it's just more of the same ... where's the bit about the ECJ interpreting and ruling on who has breached the agreement?

That appears to be going to a form of arbitration. Which is still an independent judgement. The ECJ was never anti.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

This isn't exactly as I see it, but it's pretty close.

https://youtu.be/0GhqbPRiMhY

 

[JC Footy Genius]

That appears to be going to a form of arbitration. Which is still an independent judgement. The ECJ was never anti.

Yep, It's a form of arbitration independent of the EU, I thought we could all accept that the ECJ isn't independent of the EU.

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

Financial services were always intended to be in a separate agreement - although 'no deal' in the main trade agreement would have destroyed any goodwill to make the financial services arrangement.

AH, I do hope you are correct.

 

[nicko31]

Surprise surprise ! It's a shit sandwich after all !

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trayal-as-mps-fear-rush-to-ratify-brexit-deal

An abysmal failure for the UK side.

What's more this industry of little of relevance used up so much oxygen in the negotiations and failed to deal with services in any detail

Bad news for Scotland of course, another angle towards independence

 

[nicko31]

Irish government to fund Erasmus for UK nationals, ie students for Northern Ireland

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/1226/1186524-erasmus-northern-ireland/

Its not a good look at all for an English centric government. Brexit may be all but done shortly but the next phase will be the very existence of our Union of nations

 

[nicko31]

Yep, It's a form of arbitration independent of the EU, I thought we could all accept that the ECJ isn't independent of the EU.

Note - International law applies, so time to grow up

 

[Randy McNob]

This isn't exactly as I see it, but it's pretty close.

I did wonder where you got your cliches. Alex is one of my favourite comedians

 

[vegster]

Irish government to fund Erasmus for UK nationals, ie students for Northern Ireland

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/1226/1186524-erasmus-northern-ireland/

Its not a good look at all for an English centric government. Brexit may be all but done shortly but the next phase will be the very existence of our Union of nations

I read not so long ago that many previous " Unionists " are starting to see that the future looks better with closer bonds to Eire than with the rest of the UK. We already know the Scots want out and we can't blame them but, NI shares lots of regulatory alignment with Eire giving it easier access to the EU as a whole. Could be a boom time for NI and as the old prejudices start to fade in to memory I can see NI wanting to fully join with Eire.

Still, Sovereignty eh ? We demanded it for ourselves when we already had it yet deny it for the rest of the UK ?

 

[nicko31]

I read not so long ago that many previous " Unionists " are starting to see that the future looks better with closer bonds to Eire than with the rest of the UK. We already know the Scots want out and we can't blame them but, NI shares lots of regulatory alignment with Eire giving it easier access to the EU as a whole. Could be a boom time for NI and as the old prejudices start to fade in to memory I can see NI wanting to fully join with Eire.

Still, Sovereignty eh ? We demanded it for ourselves when we already had it yet deny it for the rest of the UK ?

The irony of leaving one Union to weaken and ultimately destroy your own. My fear is the scenes of all those Brexiters waving their Union flags on 31st January will age very very badly

And how many of those fish they wasted so much time on are in Scottish waters?

As for Ireland there the younger more progressive generation care less about the religious stuff, being close to Europe and opportunities it creates will be a higher priority. Freedom movement to 2 countries or 30?

 

[Frutos]

Interesting that at least one person on this thread voted Remain acccording to one of their accounts and Leave according to the other.

 

[vegster]

Interesting that at least one person on this thread voted Remain acccording to one of their accounts and Leave according to the other.

Sometimes I wish I was a Mod !, Would be SO much fun looking in to all the dual accounts....

 

[sparkie]

https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1343346673200877571?s=19

 

[WATFORD zero]

Interesting that at least one person on this thread voted Remain acccording to one of their accounts and Leave according to the other.

Not as good as [MENTION=17103]Mo Gosfield[/MENTION] who said he voted Leave at the time of the referendum, and then a couple of months ago, tried to claimed he didn't ON THE SAME ACCOUNT

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I did wonder where you got your cliches. Alex is one of my favourite comedians

Please believe me when I say I really don't get them from him, maybe he gets them from me


I am not an avid fan of his at all but he does actually reality check situations and that's all I ever try to do on here because of the skew of NSC. Am I trying to be popular.....no................ am i trying to be hated.........no.

Do i try to get to the point without a ban ...........yes.

Why beat about the bush


99.99% of the posters I would have a beer with, not sure if that would be reversed though

Are you partially to a ginger McNob then.

 

[nicko31]

Sometimes I wish I was a Mod !, Would be SO much fun looking in to all the dual accounts....

How can mods tell?

 

[Chicken Run]

Interesting that at least one person on this thread voted Remain acccording to one of their accounts and Leave according to the other.

Well Frutos me old mate whilst we are on the topic could you confirm to the doubters that I only post on one account please?

 

[Randy McNob]

When Brexiters knew Exactly what they voted for was this part of it?

 

[vegster]

How can mods tell?

Access to the e-mail accounts, passwords and post history of members I should think, the Mods must have access to everything personal.