[Politics] Brexit

[The Clamp]

I knew it wouldn't be long before you were chirping in. What's your point?

Figure it out. It’s nothing more than a light hearted swipe. Nothing to get your blood up over




Chirping in?

Do you mean chipping in? Or chirping up?

It’s okay, I have thickos in my family

 

[melias shoes]

Fbigure it out. It’s nothing more than a light hearted swipe. Nothing to get your blood up over




Chirping in?

Do you mean chipping in? Or chirping up?

It’s okay, I have thickos in my family

Chip off the old block are they?

 

[The Clamp]

Chip off the old block are they?

Chirp off the old block

 

[melias shoes]

Chirp off the old block

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I have mixed race in my family.

Anglo and Saxon?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

One positive effect of the hipster / artisan scene is that areas of work such as Barista, waiting, bar work, street food etc have had something of an image change and a lot of people quite rightly now see the art and value in such roles.

Unfortunately there will always be a sector of society who view the hard working people who fill these roles as some kind of underclass, put on this earth to quietly serve them and do their bidding for minimum wage.

And that ignorant attitude isn’t confined to the upper classes. Plenty of the working and middle class “I’ve had the steak, she’s had the prawns” mob are happy to treat people who work in service industries as serfs who deserve nothing but contempt.

As regards the argument that foreigners keep wages down, a progressive government would tackle the British employers who pay these low wages, not foreigners who are employed by them.

Excellent post. Coincidentally Cin Cin posted this on their Facebook page yesterday.

There are no ‘low-skilled workers’ in hospitality. Just committed, hard working, honest people who love to give of themselves to make sure others enjoy their meal. That takes real skill. So does baking bread, shaping pasta, choosing wine, trimming meat, setting a pannacotta. We do all these things, we are from all corners of the world and we are more than a ‘points based system’. We do these things because we LOVE hospitality as a calling and a career. We are not just filling time. All we ask from the @uk_gov is respect and some support to teach others. So big love to the Brighton hospitality heroes. We stand with you shoulder to skilled shoulder ��
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#hospitality #ukhospitality #brighton #hove #restaurants #restaurantsbrighton #brightonbestrestaurants #brightonsbest #chef #cheflife #chefsofinstagram #cincin

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

One positive effect of the hipster / artisan scene is that areas of work such as Barista, waiting, bar work, street food etc have had something of an image change and a lot of people quite rightly now see the art and value in such roles.

Unfortunately there will always be a sector of society who view the hard working people who fill these roles as some kind of underclass, put on this earth to quietly serve them and do their bidding for minimum wage.

And that ignorant attitude isn’t confined to the upper classes. Plenty of the working and middle class “I’ve had the steak, she’s had the prawns” mob are happy to treat people who work in service industries as serfs who deserve nothing but contempt.

As regards the argument that foreigners keep wages down, a progressive government would tackle the British employers who pay these low wages, not foreigners who are employed by them.

[MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION] has stated many times he has problems with taxi drivers....I wonder if it’s his lofty attitude to those in the service sector?

 

[ManOfSussex]

Excellent post. Coincidentally Cin Cin posted this on their Facebook page yesterday.

There are no ‘low-skilled workers’ in hospitality. Just committed, hard working, honest people who love to give of themselves to make sure others enjoy their meal. That takes real skill. So does baking bread, shaping pasta, choosing wine, trimming meat, setting a pannacotta. We do all these things, we are from all corners of the world and we are more than a ‘points based system’. We do these things because we LOVE hospitality as a calling and a career. We are not just filling time. All we ask from the @uk_gov is respect and some support to teach others. So big love to the Brighton hospitality heroes. We stand with you shoulder to skilled shoulder ��
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#hospitality #ukhospitality #brighton #hove #restaurants #restaurantsbrighton #brightonbestrestaurants #brightonsbest #chef #cheflife #chefsofinstagram #cincin

It's so 'low skilled' that Hospitality Management is a university degree.

Additionally if I look back at my very successful, selfless, dedicated 25 year career of frequenting licensed premises and spending so much time and money supporting the industry, there's also been so many people who started off as just a barman or barmaid, including EU nationals, who then went on to become managers/landlords/landladies/owners/licensees etc.

 

[nicko31]

It includes giving Gibraltar to Spain amongst other demands.
Johnson will go No Deal and hail it as a triumph. Then the consequences will follow.

I was in the Netherlands last week, the Dutch can't believe their luck, UK businesses are queuing to set up bases there.

Or maybe we'll capitulate like we have on everything else so far...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I was in the Netherlands last week, the Dutch can't believe their luck, UK businesses are queuing to set up bases there.

Or maybe we'll capitulate like we have on everything else so far...

140 companies have moved from the UK there.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I’ve just been reading about Beech care home in Halesowen, where an elderly resident died after being hit by another resident with a walking stick. Care homes are desperately short of care workers, but now this policy is going to cut off that supply.
Only the local paper reported this death.
Care homes will be closing rapidly over the next couple of years.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I was in the Netherlands last week, the Dutch can't believe their luck, UK businesses are queuing to set up bases there.

Or maybe we'll capitulate like we have on everything else so far...

The company I work for has already shifted millions of pounds worth of central operations out of the UK to Holland. Ireland has also benefited.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It's so 'low skilled' that Hospitality Management is a university degree.

Additionally if I look back at my very successful, selfless, dedicated 25 year career of frequenting licensed premises and spending so much time and money supporting the industry, there's also been so many people who started off as just a barman or barmaid, including EU nationals, who then went on to become managers/landlords/landladies/owners/licensees etc.

....or set up their own business.

 

[Lever]

The culture of treating care, hotel, pub and restaurant work as 'unskilled'/'student-type labour' (whatever that means) has to change. It's a national embarrassment.....

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The culture of treating care, hotel and restaurant workers as 'unskilled'/student-type labour has to change. It's a national embarrassment.....

The wage limit set set by the Home Office excludes nurses physios teachers etc.
It’s small change to these rich MPs who don’t realise it’s a wage to most people.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

It's so 'low skilled' that Hospitality Management is a university degree.

Additionally if I look back at my very successful, selfless, dedicated 25 year career of frequenting licensed premises and spending so much time and money supporting the industry, there's also been so many people who started off as just a barman or barmaid, including EU nationals, who then went on to become managers/landlords/landladies/owners/licensees etc.

You're all whistling in the wind I'm afraid. The fortunes of competent multilingual EU nationals in Britain's hospitality sector is of even less interest to committed Brexiteers than the freedom of young Britons to study, work, live and retire across the most varied, beautiful and culturally rich parcel of land in the world.

As the man said: "We hope to see a Europe where men of every country will think as much of being a European as of belonging to their native land, and that without losing any part of their love and loyalty to their birthplace. We hope that wherever they go in this wide domain, to we set no limit in the European continent, they will truly feel ‘Here I am at home. I am a citizen of this country too.'"

 

[Lever]

You're all whistling in the wind I'm afraid. The fortunes of competent multilingual EU nationals in Britain's hospitality sector is of even less interest to committed Brexiteers than the freedom of young Britons to study, work, live and retire across the most varied, beautiful and culturally rich parcel of land in the world.

As the man said: "We hope to see a Europe where men of every country will think as much of being a European as of belonging to their native land, and that without losing any part of their love and loyalty to their birthplace. We hope that wherever they go in this wide domain, to we set no limit in the European continent, they will truly feel ‘Here I am at home. I am a citizen of this country too.'"

Moving and dispiriting in the light of what has happened......

 

[melias shoes]

Anglo and Saxon?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

They knew what they were voting for! He's a former Tory candidate.

ONE of Scotland’s staunchest Brexiteers has blasted Boris Johnson’s post-Brexit immigration plans, warning they will be “catastrophic” for fishing industry.

Speaking on Radio 4’s Today programme, Jimmy Buchan, the CEO of the Scottish Seafood Association, warned that any “sea of opportunity” coming from Brexit would be lost if processing firms were forbidden from hiring workers from overseas

https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...igration-plans-catastrophic-fishing-industry/

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

They knew what they were voting for! He's a former Tory candidate.

ONE of Scotland’s staunchest Brexiteers has blasted Boris Johnson’s post-Brexit immigration plans, warning they will be “catastrophic” for fishing industry.

Speaking on Radio 4’s Today programme, Jimmy Buchan, the CEO of the Scottish Seafood Association, warned that any “sea of opportunity” coming from Brexit would be lost if processing firms were forbidden from hiring workers from overseas

https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...igration-plans-catastrophic-fishing-industry/

Much the same view as the farmers, who were of course pro brexit.

O well.