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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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spence

British and Proud
Oct 15, 2014
9,953
Crawley
CNNBC reported "hundreds"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/31/brexit-is-happening-what-happens-next.html

The Torygraph reported "hundreds"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-latest-news-uk-independence-fireworks-party/

Daily Mail don't seem to mention the numbers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ally-leaves-EU-Britons-country-celebrate.html

The Sun claimed Millions across the country, and Thousands in Parliament square.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10858199/brexit-news-uk-live-eu-latest/


I think there were probably thousands there, but about a tenth of what you reckon.

I'll show you a proper video of it and its numbers later when I get home. From somebody who was actually there. Then you can make your own mind up instead of what you like to believe or what is fed to you.
I'm surprised someone like you falls for it.
 
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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
The only allegations I have seen of antisemitism were of a general type, i.e. ********s such as yourself would say "what about antisemitism in Labour?" as a response to criticism of specific incidents of racism being pointed out in some leavers.
I have never seen any specific incident of antisemitism cited to be able to condemn it. The accusation begins with Labour leadership being uncomfortable with the contentious IHRA working definition of what constitutes antisemetism, and it adopting a slightly amended version of it, not in the definition itself, but in removing some of the examples given.

From wikipedia; In September 2018, the NEC decided to add all 11 IHRA examples (unamended) to the definition of antisemitism.[139][146] A few days later the Parliamentary Labour Party voted by a majority of 205 to adopt the unamended definition to their standing orders.[147]

Later in the month, a report by the Media Reform Coalition examined over 250 articles and broadcast news segments of coverage of Labour's revised code of conduct on antisemitism, and found over 90 examples of misleading or inaccurate reporting. The research found evidence of "overwhelming source imbalance" in which critics of Labour's code of conduct dominated coverage which failed to include quotes from those defending the code, critiquing the IHRA working definition and key contextual facts about the IHRA working definition.

Brilliant, another stupid twunt who doesn't follow the news or know how to use a search engine. I even provided a link in my initial post that mentioned specific allegations of antisemitism.

Perhaps you should contact the EHRC and tell them there are no cases of antisemitism it's all just a silly overblown argument about definitions. Tell Luciana Berger the poor dear didn't really need Police protection at the Labour Party conference or need to quit the party and inform the Labour Party that they made a terrible mistake in expelling 45 members over antisemitism in 2019.
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,786
Brilliant, another stupid twunt who doesn't follow the news or know how to use a search engine. I even provided a link in my initial post that mentioned specific allegations of antisemitism.

Perhaps you should contact the EHRC and tell them there are no cases of antisemitism it's all just a silly overblown argument about definitions. Tell Luciana Berger the poor dear didn't really need Police protection at the Labour Party conference or need to quit the party and inform the Labour Party that they made a terrible mistake in expelling 45 members over antisemitism in 2019.

It's a little strange because I would have thought an ardent Unionist and Brexiteer such as yourself, posting on a thread all about Brexit would have been totally focused on what the new Border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Britain is going to look like and operate, without stitching up Unionists like yourself completely ?

You know, maybe making sure that the promises of no new processes or documentation, that Boris ('send them to me and I will bin them') Johnson claimed throughout his election campaign to get your (and other unionists) vote, is realised.

But all you seem to be interested in is post after post of insults and whataboutism about some other poster's views on the retiring leader of a political party who will be in the wilderness for the next 5 years.

I really can't imagine why that would be ???
 
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Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
What do you mean by the establishment?

The vast majority of people perceive ' The Establishment ' to be the higher reaches of Political life, the Civil Service, Banking, Judiciary and Law and Order. The obvious controlling influences in our lives. The framework of authority. I thought the same, when I was younger. My Father moved within the ' inner circle ' of the City. An area of power, influence and wealth. He knew and met a lot of very influential people. It was clear from the few things he used to open up about that there was more out there than met the eye. Behind the clear and obvious leaders, there were others, with even more influence. A lot of these had family connections going back generations. They had wealth, privilege and a comfortable lifestyle and they had the influence to ensure, that whatever happened, they were largely unaffected. They are the true status quo, the Establishment. Solid, established and virtually untouchable. Some refer to them as ' the men in grey suits ' They don't necessarily have political allegiance just wealth and lifestyle allegiance. Governments can change and we can leave trading partnerships like the EU and these people are still unaffected.
It is a network set up to cover themselves. A rarified form of masonic life. Its a life of secret handshakes and using power to benefit. They stay in the background and are not usually figures known to the public. The Monarchy has contact with these people. They are inextricably linked. They are old friends.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,581
Gods country fortnightly
It's a little strange because I would have thought an ardent Unionist and Brexiteer such as yourself, posting on a thread all about Brexit would have been totally focused on what the new Border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Britain is going to look like and operate, without stitching up Unionists like yourself completely ?

You know, maybe making sure that the promises of no new processes or documentation, that Boris ('send them to me and I will bin them') Johnson claimed throughout his election campaign to get your (and other unionists) vote, is realised.

But all you seem to be interested in is post after post of insults and whataboutism about some other poster's views on the retiring leader of a political party who will be in the wilderness for the next 5 years.

I really can't imagine why that would be ???

Its still one of the most bizarre things about Brexit, all the Union Flag waving yet their actions have put the future of it in peril.

But destroying institutions seems to be the primary Tory objective, maybe its just all part of the grand plan.
 




spence

British and Proud
Oct 15, 2014
9,953
Crawley
CNNBC reported "hundreds"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/31/brexit-is-happening-what-happens-next.html

The Torygraph reported "hundreds"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-latest-news-uk-independence-fireworks-party/

Daily Mail don't seem to mention the numbers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ally-leaves-EU-Britons-country-celebrate.html

The Sun claimed Millions across the country, and Thousands in Parliament square.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10858199/brexit-news-uk-live-eu-latest/


I think there were probably thousands there, but about a tenth of what you reckon.


Did you get your figures from Diane Abbott ?

First 30 secs of the video. Look at the nationality of this popular brexiteer ? This can't be true, i thought we were all ..................... :lolol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlKLfAH4Wws&t=34s
 




BeHereNow

New member
Mar 2, 2016
1,759
Southwick
In my world? Ha, sorry, a conspiracy theory that influenced and was amplified by right wing terrorists before they murdered people ISN'T 'far right'.

Oh I see you mention 'white genocide' in your signature too, nice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory

Just another charming brexiter here for you folks.

What’s that then?

I’m sure you’ll be happy when white people are a minority in this country in the latter part of this century. :smile:
 




Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356
I’m sure you’ll be happy when white people are a minority in this country in the latter part of this century. :smile:

And the issue with that is?
 














Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,640
Honestly you've got to start watching clips from some of these Brexit parties, absolute ****ing idiots [emoji23]

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Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356


That a people would’ve been ethically cleansed from their own country. I see that bad in any country.

Don’t you?

The fact you somehow seem to think caucasians in the UK are going to be ethnically (I'll spell it right as you can't) cleansed shows that this subject is more of a listening exercise for you.
 




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