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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,549
Deepest, darkest Sussex
The EU having to do Johnson's homework for him yet again

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Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Well, well the Murdoch press are report Boris will get a trade deal with Japan before end of 2020, dubbed EU++

Just one slight issue, The EU-Japan FTA (the world's largest) has a provision that forbids Japan to strike better trade deals with third countries.

More fantasy, we better get used to it I guess

So the UK can strike an EQUAL deal .... who would have thought :facepalm:
 




























Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
So just to summarise... if the Murdoch press is correct, we may be able to sign a deal with Japan by the end of the year which might be as good as the one we have anyway but we won't be under the yoke of the EU

Edited it for you.
 


kemptown kid

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
362
I'm not sure I'd call an 8 hour contract zero hours but I get where you're coming from.

It just annoys me that people automatically equate zero hours to something bad. I worked hotels and bars in my student years - earned what felt like a lot of money - and those zero hours jobs worked brilliantly for me ( although the phrase hadn't really been invented then ). Indeed, my step daughter has just started a zero hours job at The Witchez restaurant in Brighton and it suits her down to the ground.

I wonder if all those on here so against zero hour contracts buy food and drink at the Amex ? If they do then they are supporting zero hour contracts as about 90% of the serving staff are on them ( as are the most the stewards ).

Good for your stepdaughter, I hope she enjoys her job. Fine, too, for students and others who are happy to work part time and are flexible about their working hours and for specialist contractors, but low wage zero hours contracts are grim substitutes for a job with guaranteed hours if you are trying to pay your bills month after month and/or raise a family. It is immoral for companies and their owners/senior managers to make large profits from the labour of their low paid zero hours workers, relying on the welfare system to make their business model sustainable and often reluctant to pay an appropriate level of tax to support the welfare system which underwrites their 'business model'.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Good for your stepdaughter, I hope she enjoys her job. Fine, too, for students and others who are happy to work part time and are flexible about their working hours and for specialist contractors, but low wage zero hours contracts are grim substitutes for a job with guaranteed hours if you are trying to pay your bills month after month and/or raise a family. It is immoral for companies and their owners/senior managers to make large profits from the labour of their low paid zero hours workers, relying on the welfare system to make their business model sustainable and often reluctant to pay an appropriate level of tax to support the welfare system which underwrites their 'business model'.

So there is an employment model that suits some but not others - so what ? There are investment plans that suit some and not others. There are bank accounts that suit some but not others. There are house 'ownership' models that suit some but not others. There are options to purchase a season ticket that suit some but not others. The point is taking what suits you .... not complaining about what doesn't.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Please will you define what you mean by 'reasonable' Remain voters 'came to terms' with the Referendum result? I think you have used the phrase before, but it's a bit vague.

The ones who haven't spent a significant proportion of the last three + years having a hissy fit unable to move on with their lives.. in other words, the vast majority of Remain voters.
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,949
portslade
Good for your stepdaughter, I hope she enjoys her job. Fine, too, for students and others who are happy to work part time and are flexible about their working hours and for specialist contractors, but low wage zero hours contracts are grim substitutes for a job with guaranteed hours if you are trying to pay your bills month after month and/or raise a family. It is immoral for companies and their owners/senior managers to make large profits from the labour of their low paid zero hours workers, relying on the welfare system to make their business model sustainable and often reluctant to pay an appropriate level of tax to support the welfare system which underwrites their 'business model'.

Agree firms should be forced to guarantee hours if they are ongoing infinitum and not exploit like they do.
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,772
Agree firms should be forced to guarantee hours if they are ongoing infinitum and not exploit like they do.

Well that's bound to happen now with Brexit and Johnson protecting worker's rights :shootself

I notice that not one Brexit supporter has any views whatsoever on the North Sea Border processes released and posted on here 8 hours ago. I would have thought that maybe one would be able to justify the reasons it appears to be the exact opposite to what Johnson has stated throughout. I'm a little surprised that NSC's most ardent unionist [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] appears to have no views on it whatsoever.

Maybe 'ignoring it altogether' is the new 'need to think positive' :lolol:
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,949
portslade
Well that's bound to happen now with Brexit and Johnson protecting worker's rights :shootself

I notice that not one Brexit supporter has any views whatsoever on the North Sea Border processes released and posted on here 8 hours ago. I would have thought that maybe one would be able to justify the reasons it appears to be the exact opposite to what Johnson has stated throughout. I'm a little surprised that NSC's most ardent unionist [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] appears to have no views on it whatsoever.

Maybe 'ignoring it altogether' is the new 'need to think positive' :lolol:

If they are a dictate from the EU tell em to do one. No Deal
 


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