[Politics] Brexit

[Deleted member 2719]

I have a large specialised film collection where this is also true.

Where do the other 20% take it.

You're right. I do pay a lot of attention to details. That's why catchy soundbites don't mean a thing to me.

Attract? Thanks, but no thanks.

If you don't ask you don't get.

 

[Notters]

As a remainer who reluctantly accepted Brexit while having grave concerns as to the type of Brexit that was being proposed by the Tories, I can no longer complain this is the mandate of the English that was required for BJ to crack on.

It's also the mandate of the Scottish people to have a second referndum on indipendance one which I suspect they will take.

As for my party the Labour Party it's a terrable result and one that will see us in the wilderness for the next five years as a minimum, JC has had two goes and while I like JC I can see he's not everyones cup of tea, and our manifesto while I agreed with most of it I think the public found it too much while the Tories had almost not manifesto other than lets get Brexit done a subject that Labour struggled with, so for Labour a time to regroup rethink what's needed to get the British public back voting for them again.

I think there's a lot who would argue with both of these points. With regard to Scotland the SNP only got 45% of the vote - does that translate to a demand for independence, anymore that the conservative's 45% does for Brexit?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

If you’re in Miami, what right have you got to comment?

Bizarre comment, is there a geographical exclusion zone to free speech? Also, have you asked the same question of daveinprague?

 

[Wardy's twin]

I think there's a lot who would argue with both of these points. With regard to Scotland the SNP only got 45% of the vote - does that translate to a demand for independence, anymore that the conservative's 45% does for Brexit?

it depends on your view of democracy. the concept for most people who have argued for brexit is essentially first past the post and the SNP can claim they are the biggest voice for Scotland now...

 

[portslade seagull]

Oh well now the snowflakes are out of the equation let's crack on with getting out.

 

[theonlymikey]

Norway seeking to maintain access to UK waters. Will be speaking to the EU about this at the next summit.

So it begins... #LetsGetBrexit"started"

 

[Miami Seagull]

If you’re in Miami, what right have you got to comment?[/QUOTE

Bermuda actually. And, as a British Citizen, every right.

 

[Wardy's twin]

Bizarre comment, is there a geographical exclusion zone to free speech? Also, have you asked the same question of daveinprague?

possibly but IF the individual has chosen to live in america then you as a very reasonable person should be able to see that he has given up his right to comment on a country he has left behind and how unjust it is that people from the EU
who have chosen to work & live & pay taxes here are excluded. it is quite simple

 

[portslade seagull]

Norway seeking to maintain access to UK waters. Will be speaking to the EU about this at the next summit.

So it begins... #LetsGetBrexit"started"

Noooo someone's bitter. Steptoe lost by a stonking margin get over it

 

[CHAPPERS]

Nothing has changed since yesterday so no point crowing about anything with regards to Brexit. It's not resolved itself overnight and nobody knows what Johnson does next and what he has to agree to if he is to get his FTA, if indeed he wants to.

 

[Miami Seagull]

possibly but IF the individual has chosen to live in america then you as a very reasonable person should be able to see that he has given up his right to comment on a country he has left behind and how unjust it is that people from the EU
who have chosen to work & live & pay taxes here are excluded. it is quite simple

Interesting view, especially from someone who has absolutely no clue what I do and why I left. No need to explain it to the likes of you and I won't in any detail, but I left the UK to represent the UK government abroad, having spent many years working in and around the DfT, industry and at the EU from time to time. I actually feel that gives me quite a reasonable level of inclusion.

And I remain a proud British Citizen.

 

[A1X]

Oh well now the snowflakes are out of the equation let's crack on with getting out.

It's incredibly naive that you think those of us who believe in being part of Europe will just stop doing so. Remain just becomes Rejoin.

To keep us out, Brexiters will need to get luck every election. Rejoiners will only need to get lucky once.

 

[Wardy's twin]

Likes of me ? What does that mean? I was stating in your case IF . But to be clear you think ex-pats who chose to live abroad and don't pay taxes here should have more say than someone who has lived here 20 years and contributed to the economy. I don't know your circumstances but I assume you pay into our economy rather than one of those individuals who has chosen to go and live in another country because they prefer it and sit making snide remarks from the outside.

 

[nicko31]

Nothing has changed since yesterday so no point crowing about anything with regards to Brexit. It's not resolved itself overnight and nobody knows what Johnson does next and what he has to agree to if he is to get his FTA, if indeed he wants to.

About 15-20% done in 3.5 years, the only thing that has changed in the last 24 hours in remainers can now be removed from the blame list

EU position already pretty clear, UK needs to decide which harm level it selects. There will be no cake and eating it that for sure...

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Nothing has changed since yesterday so no point crowing about anything with regards to Brexit. It's not resolved itself overnight and nobody knows what Johnson does next and what he has to agree to if he is to get his FTA, if indeed he wants to.

Yesterday there was a very real chance Brexit could still be blocked, today .... not so much.

 

[daveinplzen]

Bizarre comment, is there a geographical exclusion zone to free speech? Also, have you asked the same question of daveinprague?

Actually, daveinprague is wondering why ppf and his like are not saying 'you dont live here'...as per usual.

I apologise for not wanting to see my country turn to shit, but there you go.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Well my George Orwell quote came true on Thursday 12th December 2019

A bizarre outcome to the election, in that those in England and Wales who have been shafted by the Conservatives for the past decade have now put them into government for another 5 years.

Such is the majority, I do wonder whether the Tory right really matters so much now? Boris will ultimately do what benefits him best, a proven liar that will throw anyone under the bus, seen it over and over again.

Tough choice ahead, he might decide a softer Brexit is a better route with more ££ for public services and trying to tame the Scottish Indy Ref 2 push.

There is chance to unite the country if he wants to take it, or he might obey Farage, moody think tanks etc.

Hoping for the best but still fear the worse and have taken appropriate action to protect myself and my family from the worse that could happen

Grizzle, grizzle, grizzle.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Oh well now the snowflakes are out of the equation let's crack on with getting out.

Unfortunately the sort of deeply unpleasant people happy to spread false rumours that the photo of the little boy lying on a pile of coats in a hospital was just a set up by his mother are still around though.

 

[daveinplzen]

Im clearing out the spare room to accommodate the unicorn, so its not all bad news. Will watch how it all unfolds. I believe it will unfold badly tbh.
Spoke with somebody this morning, who relies on the NHS as he has a serious condition, and he voted Tory. Beggers belief to me.
I suspect, if/when it turns to shit, they will blame somebody else though.

 

[Nixonator]

It's incredibly naive that you think those of us who believe in being part of Europe will just stop doing so. Remain just becomes Rejoin.

To keep us out, Brexiters will need to get luck every election. Rejoiners will only need to get lucky once.

Just once? It's incredibly naive that you think those that believe in not being part of Europe will just stop doing so.

It's not a revolving door. Wake up.