[Politics] Brexit

[WATFORD zero]

Off to bed, but before I go, the Two Profs award for post of the day goes to [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] for this amusing little exchange over the course of 5 mins earlier today

The government will use the FTPA again to try to get their early election, meaning they need two thirds of MP's to back it. They must reckon they can get Labour to back it over the weekend.

Not sure how it can be voted on again after I was rejected yesterday and Monday will count as the same session of parliament, but there you go.

It would need to be a bill (different process)that says "not withstanding the FTPA" or something like it, they wouldnt be using the FTPA again. A bill if passed would have an election date set in stone (harder for labour to object) and would simply need a majority not two thirds

https://twitter.com/MarkerJParker/status/1169629312062054401?s=19

Confirmed by Number 10 to be trying FTPA again.

The 'not withstanding' bill wouldn't be used unless all else fails as I understand it as it's open to amendments and has to go through the Lords - FTPA doesn't.

It's been fun. Sleep tight

 

[Nobby]

Pasta, you really do flatter to deceive, by dressing up what turns out to be basic Brexiteer bollox in reasonably eloquent frippery.
You're basically just The Fairy in drag.

Lol. True that

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Roll on the election ,let's get this sorted LEAVE MEANS LEAVE cataclysmic destruction of the liberal elite
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

You had your chance, your time is up

Far from it , waiting patiently
Regards
DT

 

[Lever]

Roll on the election ,let's get this sorted LEAVE MEANS LEAVE cataclysmic destruction of the liberal elite
Regards
DF

err..... I think you've said that several times.... Do you just cut and paste your nonsense?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

You can’t really call facts backed up by RCN, WHO, and the former Health Minister ridiculous. Well, you can. But then you’ve gotten used to denying reality by now.

It is impossible to debate with someone who refuses to acknowledge the existence of facts.

Referendum result = LEAVE that's the only fact that matters
regards
DF

 

[pastafarian]

Off to bed, but before I go, the Two Profs award for post of the day goes to [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] for this amusing little exchange over the course of 5 mins earlier today







It's been fun. Sleep tight

Wrong again.
It would need a new bill if the motion was both identical and the circumstances were unchanged
You probably need a hobby for your retirement

 

[Stato]

Wasn't the referendum vote supposed to save the Conservative Party from eating itself?

It's become reminiscent of Ben Tre:

We had to destroy the Conservative Party in order to save it.

 

[birthofanorange]

Referendum result = LEAVE that's the only fact that matters
regards
DF

It's the only FACT your brain has room for, it seems. (When I say 'brain', I mean the term loosely.)

 

[albion68]

Let's be honest, Brexiters got their wish and we voted leave. They were given and inch and they ran an effing mile. They took the absolute piss ignoring 49% of the public existed and tried to inflict a no deal.

And now they might end up with remain as a result. How's that for irony.

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I think its quite obvious that we got to this point because Remain MP`S with the help of Labour who voted against TM`s deal want to maneuver Parliament to the end game of no Brexit or in Labour`s case some sought of almost Brexit .And of course a 1970`s style left wing Government IMO .

 

[theonlymikey]

I think its quite obvious that we got to this point because Remain MP`S with the help of Labour who voted against TM`s deal want to maneuver Parliament to the end game of no Brexit or in Labour`s case some sought of almost Brexit .And of course a 1970`s style left wing Government IMO .

The Tories had a working majority when Mays bill was voted on. Don't blame the opposition.

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[wolfie]

If this was 1516, they would probably be losing their heads on Tower Hill for treason !

 

[clapham_gull]

I think its quite obvious that we got to this point because Remain MP`S with the help of Labour who voted against TM`s deal want to maneuver Parliament to the end game of no Brexit or in Labour`s case some sought of almost Brexit .And of course a 1970`s style left wing Government IMO .

It's got to this point because the Tories have voted in a couple of lame PMs.

If the Government had any sort of majority we'd be out now with some special time limited provisions applying to Northern Ireland only to keep the border open. May could never have got that through Parliament because she ended up propped up by the DUP.

By calling an election post referendum, it just introduced the 50/50 split of the result back into Parliament.

Boris has now tried something stupid and has completely ****ed his mandate to lead.

Blame the opposition all you like, but the Tories have ****ed up the process strategically from start to finish.

Post Cameron, there are the most incompetent Government I've witnessed in my lifetime. Add the Windrush scandal into that too.

Imagine if they had been forced to take us to war ?

 

[Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee]

Well it’s not though is it?
It’s 23:35 you silly sausages, so go to BED

 

[clapham_gull]

Rees Mogg forced to apologise for comments about Doctor.

I'm amazed he is still in his post.

 

[W.C.]

Pasta, you really do flatter to deceive, by dressing up what turns out to be basic Brexiteer bollox in reasonably eloquent frippery.
You're basically just The Fairy in drag.

True dat.

 

[Johnnyboy]

Well it’s not though is it?
It’s 23:35 you silly sausages, so go to BED

Made I laugh [emoji106]


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[Grombleton]

Far from it , waiting patiently
Regards
DT

Waiting for what? Godot? A Bus? One brain cell to knock against another like a Newton's Cradle?

 

[Weststander]

Well, their political predecessors at that time were Liberals in Asquith and Lloyd George, the latter had a humble background. It was a Labour leader who led us into war in Iraq. So to make such wild statements to earn NSC brown-nose points, comes with complications that don’t fit into a neat anti-Tory box.

The huge numbers who want the UK out of the EU cut across all social classes.

 

[Baldseagull]

Jo Johnson, brother of UK PM, quits as Tory MP and minister saying he is "torn between family and national interest"

Effectively saying, to be loyal to his brother would be against the national interest.