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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,101


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
This country is all done. Oh well lets have a dictatorship then. Maybe go the whole hog and invite socialist comrades corbyn and co to take the realm reigns for as long as he and his ilk like? corbyn little 'c' deliberate.

Who’s the dictator?
 










The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
There is no dictator. It might be better if there was and this whole impasse could be done with.

At least 450 MPs and most of the house of lords are dictating. A thousand people frustrating the will of the biggest turn out in voting history! They ARE dictators. Remainers as a whole are dictatorial. It's an f'ing joke.
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,689
It says no deal is better than a bad deal ....

It also says:

Theresa May’s Conservatives will deliver the best possible deal for Britain as we leave the European Union delivered by a smooth, orderly Brexit.

May's deal is the best possible deal, and is smooth and orderly.

Any Tory opposing it is reneging on the manifesto that they stood on. The undemocratic loons who have no respect for the electorate.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
If you are referring to the 'democratic' result of the referendum, I sympathise with your frustration but I am sure you will know that it was an extremely dodgy process with a very vague 'leaving' option. Now we know more, we must surely seek some way to ratify what we are doing. It is just too important to do otherwise.

We had a democratic vote in 2016 where we could vote to leave or Remain, we had a democratic vote in 2017 where we could vote for parties that ratified that decision or parties that chose to ignore it. How many goes do you want?
 






Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,447
At least 450 MPs and most of the house of lords are dictating. A thousand people frustrating the will of the biggest turn out in voting history! They ARE dictators. Remainers as a whole are dictatorial. It's an f'ing joke.

So tell me ..... which of the options did Cameron specify were available to 'leave' voters?
 


Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,447
We had a democratic vote in 2016 where we could vote to leave or Remain, we had a democratic vote in 2017 where we could vote for parties that ratified that decision or parties that chose to ignore it. How many goes do you want?

So tell me ..... which of the options did Cameron specify were available to 'leave' voters? It has been demonstrated beyond doubt that there was tampering with the vote - as well as misinformation (on both sides). The whole process was a disgrace. No one should be okay with that - whether you won or lost.
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
At least 450 MPs and most of the house of lords are dictating. A thousand people frustrating the will of the biggest turn out in voting history! They ARE dictators. Remainers as a whole are dictatorial. It's an f'ing joke.

Wrong. The country voted to leave and about 80% of MPs are happy to back a plan to leave. Problem is that they all want a different type of leave and no specific plan to leave has been tabled that >50% are happy to vote for.
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
It also says:



May's deal is the best possible deal, and is smooth and orderly.

Any Tory opposing it is reneging on the manifesto that they stood on. The undemocratic loons who have no respect for the electorate.

They don't think it's the best possible deal and parliament by a clear majority agrees, therefore, any Tory who voted against no deal was reneging on the manifesto they stood on. The undemocratic loons who have no respect for the electorate.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,225
Goldstone
Democracy in the UK has been redefined to be more in keeping with EU norms (ignore the electorate if they give the wrong answer) .When has the losing side (that previously made clear this was a once in a lifetime choice) ever insisted democratic results aren't enacted and demand we all vote again?
You know it's not quite like that, given that those that voted leave had different opinions on what sort of leave they'd like, and they wouldn't all be happy regardless of the type we get.
 












nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
No answer then ... so let me guess, only one more go as long as the answer is Remain.

Serious question:

Would you accept a further ref with say 3 types of leave on the paper: Norway style deal; May’s deal; WTO?

Because that is possibly the best way to resolve the deadlock.
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,689
They don't think it's the best possible deal and parliament by a clear majority agrees, therefore, any Tory who voted against no deal was reneging on the manifesto they stood on. The undemocratic loons who have no respect for the electorate.

But it is the best deal possible, the tory goverent say it is, including Gove and Fox etc. The tory manifesto says we will leave with the best possible deal in a smooth and orderly fashion.

No where does it say that they want a no deal brexit.

These Tory MP's that are obstructing Brexit hoping for no deal aren't acting in accordance with those who voted them in to represent them in parliament.
 




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