[Politics] Brexit

[birthofanorange]

Farage is not an idiot, he is however someone who made a very successful business career out of the EU. On one hand taking the EU cash as a MEP and attracting more cash from anti EU businesss and individuals who thought he was a " man of the people ".

Accurate, indeed, apart from he *is* a man of the people....just the wrong kind of people.

 

[clapham_gull]

Yes, very impressive. Almost as many as people who voted Leave ......................

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OK, just about 16M short then.

Bit of a thick as mince comparison though isn't it ?

More people voted leave that turned up to leave marches or voted for a no deal on the parliamentary petition site.

Why do you think leave was some form of "year zero" ?

The reality is that political opinion in this country ebbs and flows and within a decade we could end up back in.

Millions of young voters (and those too young to vote) have been utterly pissed off by the whole thing.

When they form a majority of the electorate you are gonna be in for a shock.







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[sully]

Yes, very impressive. Almost as many as people who voted Leave ......................

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OK, just about 16M short then.

Remind us when those leave voters all congregated in the same place.

 

[sully]

Peoples' vote march today in London town

AIF - but I can't see another thread.

There was a separate thread but it got merged with the main one as - like this one - it quickly just turned into the same arguments and insults.

 

[pastafarian]

Yes, very impressive. Almost as many as people who voted Leave ......................

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OK, just about 16M short then.

99% of the nation didnt attend todays march against democracy.
Something to be thankful for at least.

 

[Weststander]

You seriously think they could organise that? (and I'm life-long pro-Labour, btw!)

I don’t think he’d ever get an overall majority, so hard to say when running a coalition with the SNP. There’d be so much bitching, hard to know what business would be done other than mega tax rises on the successful and huge payouts to Scotland to keep the whinging SNP on board for as long as they can.

 

[Weststander]

Rather depressingly, and predictably, the creator of the A50 petition has received death threats. Lovely stuff.

Anna Soubry has been advised by the police that she may not be safe at her home.

 

[birthofanorange]

I'm sure that some odd person posted that 99% of the country didn't turn up for the march today.
I had no idea we had 100,000,000 people in this country.
No wonder he/she wants 'out'.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

In 2010 way over 90 per cent of voters supported pro-EU parties. Do you feel this reflected the views of the public towards EU membership?

In 2010 membership of the EU wasn't central to the election campaign but you know this ...

 

[Hampster Gull]

99% of the nation didnt attend todays march against democracy.
Something to be thankful for at least.

Maths another weak point Pastie

 

[Fungus]

You don't believe in enacting the democratic results of elections, therefore, don't respect democracy

It wasn't an election, and anyway democracy is about more than elections.

 

[Wardy's twin]

Please tell me why you want to leave the EU... how will my children and grand children benefit from us leaving?

 

[exKT17]

99% of the nation didnt attend todays march against democracy.
Something to be thankful for at least.

There are so many grounds on which to pulverise these pisspoor comments, but I really cannot be arsed as I'm not sure you'ld get the point...

 

[pastafarian]

I'm sure that some odd person posted that 99% of the country didn't turn up for the march today.
I had no idea we had 100,000,000 people in this country.
No wonder he/she wants 'out'.

the population of the UK is 66m not 100m
prob 700,000 on the march not 1m as they always exagerrate . You want to quibble about roughly 0.05%....jeez

 

[Solid at the back]

So will we see the same if there is a second referendum and its a different result second time round?
I lean towards remain, but accept the first result.
Very dangerous game this.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There are so many grounds on which to pulverise these pisspoor comments, but I really cannot be arsed as I'm not sure you'ld get the point...

Indeed, there are some dim, depressing dweebs on NSC. Still, 99.999999% of the country aren't, so.....hooray!

 

[CP 0 3 BHA]

So will we see the same if there is a second referendum and its a different result second time round?
I lean towards remain, but accept the first result.
Very dangerous game this.

Whatever the outcome I would be far happier with an informed decision than the previous uniformed/misinformed one.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Hoey isn't my MP but she once was.

The council tried to take me to court for unpaid council tax although I had it on direct debit.

She sorted it out in hours. That's these seemingly bonkers MPs stay in, they are often very good locally.




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She was my local MP when I lived near the Oval in the late 80s. Agree, mad as a snake but, usefully on occasions, just as lethal.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Shows what a terrible job Theresa of Borg has done to try and bring the country together.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Well we can all live in hope. You mention general elections. In 2017 Theresa May, having failed to implement most of her party's manifesto commitments of just two years earlier, simply called the whole thing off, scrapping parliament and calling a new vote in the hope of getting a mandate different to the one given to her by the people a short time before.

I would argue that this is similar in principle to the current suggestion of seeking a new mandate on the EU question, especially in view of information now available. In the light of your views regarding a further referendum, I am unsure why you are not incandescent about May's decision to abandon her 2015 mandate.

New information now available? What happened to your claim that everything had substantively changed and we knew exactly what we would vote on this time .. despite not knowing what deal we might leave on .. if there would even be a deal or what our future economic realtionship would be. There are many remainers on this thread who aren't bright enough to realise how disengenous or dishonest their arguments are, many others are just trolls. You have no such excuse. Principles, honesty, integrity, consistency are sadly lacking in 95% of remainers posts on this thread especially yours.