Pretty pink fairy
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If one can generalise (without stereotyping) I am of the view that rarely do Leavers engage in much detailed analysis. Sometimes they might rubbish the detailed analysis presented by others (Project Fear/ Establishment/ Elitist garbage) but often it's just a case of 'were on our way' or the dreaded 'tick tock'.
I think that sometimes because they might not have a convincing response or are simply in denial or (fair enough) can't be arsed. I'm not saying they have no evidence-base for their views or they lack the intellectual infrastructure; it's just that sometimes it kinds of slide by them.
Its because they are more worried about losing face than worried about the countries future. Fragile ego's and thin skin's etc.
If one can generalise (without stereotyping) I am of the view that rarely do Leavers engage in much detailed analysis. Sometimes they might rubbish the detailed analysis presented by others (Project Fear/ Establishment/ Elitist garbage) but often it's just a case of 'were on our way' or the dreaded 'tick tock'.
I think that sometimes because they might not have a convincing response or are simply in denial or (fair enough) can't be arsed. I'm not saying they have no evidence-base for their views or they lack the intellectual infrastructure; it's just that sometimes it kinds of slide by them.
Dave there is nothing to worry about.
On our way.
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How do you know what Baker lite meant?
More to the point why do you have alter egos?
In the early days, post referendum, there was far more engagement with the whole process, with plenty of optimism around getting a 'good deal' with the EU, new trade deals, saving the money that we spent on the EU, Independence from EU jurisdiction, and of course, taking control over immigration.
As time has gone on, each of these areas has been opened up for inspection and
The EU won't let us cherry pick the good deal we were promised and there is a growing realisation of how much we rely on the EU for all sorts of areas outside trade.
Obviously the 'New trade deals' couldn't be negotiated, but it's apparent we are way behind the EU in the queue and subservient to the EU even when trying to get new deals (ie Japan)
The money we save by not contributing to the EU will be eaten up by the areas we will have to take legislative and regulatory responsibility for (outside of any trade issues)
If we want to continue to trade with the EU at all (either directly or under WTO) we will still have to abide by EU rules and legislation.
As the economy has slowed and the pound dropped, so EU immigration has dropped. People are now becoming aware that we could have always controlled non EU immigration and put in place procedures to manage EU immigration to employment status but no British Government have ever bothered.
To be fair, what do we have left
TM's chequers deal, which still has significant areas outstanding on NI/Ireland, EU jurisdiction, the collection of EU tariffs, etc - I suspect that there will still need to be some significant softening of TM's deal before any agreement from the EU.
Or
'No deal' for which we have not started preparing infrastructure and only put our WTO submissions in 3 weeks ago, ready to start negotiations with all WTO members (which includes the EU !) in 90 days time.
Apart from whataboutism, insults, pathetic attempts at humour and the occasional jpeg of a good news story, what else could you put forward as an argument
*edit* And, if ever proof was needed, look at the responses in the time it took me to type all that out
Because it was fairly obvious to anybody who has left skool Are you really that thick?
It's only moaners that need an alter ego to 'like' them,because we're leaving nanny EU behind
Both egos post in the same bizarre.way.you answer.Questions intended for the other.and you are both obnoxious to varying degrees.One seems to post from an ipad,the other a PC.Never the twain shall meet.
I hate to break it to you but you are one and the same, I’m not that thick, I’m sure others aren’t too, even some of those who voted for Brexit.
Might be worth speaking to someone, either of you, if you don’t believe me, as you probably need help
YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, BORE OFF ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIts because they are more worried about losing face than worried about the countries future. Fragile ego's and thin skin's etc.
IF, COULD, MIGHT, AND MAYBE, no idea give me a clueWhat's your view in the event of your preferred no deal scenario on the loss of passporting rights for British insurers in Europe and their billions in policy liabilities?
So, nothing to worry about. What happens the day after we leave, if we leave with no deal? Walk me through it to put my mind at rest.
So, nothing to worry about. What happens the day after we leave, if we leave with no deal? Walk me through it to put my mind at rest.
So, nothing to worry about. What happens the day after we leave, if we leave with no deal? Walk me through it to put my mind at rest.
On March 30th,if no deal has been struck We leave on WTO rules.
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Dave, you’ve asked this question about 40 times. You’ve clearly got some smart arse retort lined up so can you put us all out our ****ing misery and just spit it out.
My answer to the question is no one truly knows. But I guarantee it won’t be half as bad as you or that soppy Watford bloke are hoping and praying for. We’re big boys. We’ll be ok.
We’re on our way.