[Politics] Brexit

[WATFORD zero]

Am I correct in thinking that if no negotiated agreement is reached in the next 8 months then we will automatically leave the EU with no extension and straight onto WTO rules ?

Although legally that would be true,

Practically, no we can't.

My post here explains why

What will happen is the EU will offer an extension to membership on whatever terms they see fit, and we will have to take it. (The economic implications of a WTO 'no deal') on Britain would be so huge that it would certainly effect the EU negatively.

 

[Two Professors]

So apart from the fact that we will be the only country in the world trading only on WTO terms (Mauritania, the other country who were solely on WTO terms has now joined the Economic Community of West African States. As a result, it now has preferential trade arrangements with some 20 WTO members).

We are now going to implement WTO terms with no borders, border controls, customs or processes to manage the terms, because you don't think these are needed. And when the establishment and business tell you different, you don't believe them because they constantly lie.

Even the massive amounts we export outside the EU, we export on the preferred EU terms because we are part of the EU. The processes in place are EU ones, not WTO ones

And there was me thinking TM's Max Fac solution was fantasy

The match isn't that good so it's time to call you on this utterly massive pile of crap.I suppose you thought nobody bothers reading your rubbish any more,so you could get away with it.The 28 countries on this EU list are so small that they don't count in your feeble excuse for a brain?

 

[WATFORD zero]

The match isn't that good so it's time to call you on this utterly massive pile of crap.I suppose you thought nobody bothers reading your rubbish any more,so you could get away with it.The 28 countries on this EU list are so small that they don't count in your feeble excuse for a brain?

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Do you ever think of looking at your jpegs before you post them ?

So the UK trade with the USA on WTO rules and tariffs do they ? Britain are members of the EU, remember?

I know that without a jpeg you're out of your depth, so I took one of the countries on your picture and

http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/united-states/index_en.htm

The Transatlantic Economic Council is over 10 years old.

Unsurprisingly, I can't be arsed to look up the rest of your picture, but if you were capable you'd find similar

You Moron

 

[Two Professors]

Do you ever think of looking at your jpegs before you post them ?

So the UK trade with the USA on WTO rules do they ?

http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/united-states/index_en.htm

Moron

How else do they trade with the countries on that list brain dead?

 

[Blue3]

Although legally that would be true,

Practically, no we can't.

My post here explains why

What will happen is the EU will offer an extension to membership on whatever terms they see fit, and we will have to take it. (The economic implications of a WTO 'no deal') on Britain would be so huge that it would certainly effect the EU negatively.

Thank you

So we find ourselves in this position 8 months to go no agreement yet purely because the government triggered artical 50 when there was no need to do so and without a clear agreement within government as to what its negotiating stance was going to be!

 

[WATFORD zero]

Thank you

So we find ourselves in this position 8 months to go no agreement yet purely because the government triggered artical 50 when there was no need to do so and without a clear agreement within government as to what its negotiating stance was going to be!

Spot on

 

[Two Professors]

Do you ever think of looking at your jpegs before you post them ?

So the UK trade with the USA on WTO rules and tariffs do they ? Britain are members of the EU, remember?

I know that without a jpeg you're out of your depth, so I took one of the countries on your picture and

http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/united-states/index_en.htm

The Transatlantic Economic Council is over 10 years old.

Unsurprisingly, I can't be arsed to look up the rest of your picture, but if you were capable you'd find similar

You Moron

So it took you half an hour to edit your post three times,look up the information,realise you were hopelessly wrong AGAIN,and make up some feeble excuse to cover your mistakes.So how do we trade with those countries you arrogant know-f**k-all.Even you can't be that slow you dope-back later.

 

[WATFORD zero]

So it took you half an hour to edit your post three times,look up the information,realise you were hopelessly wrong AGAIN,and make up some feeble excuse to cover your mistakes.So how do we trade with those countries you arrogant know-f**k-all.Even you can't be that slow you dope-back later.

I have to say that for 50 odd years I never thought I was that clever

But, compared to you, I've realised I'm a complete f***ing genius

And, in your interests, I really think you should calm down petal. Maybe take a lead from [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION]. While equally stupid, his puff and porn consumption at least seems to keep him calm.

 

[pastafarian]

You seem to be struggling with English comprehension, I clearly wrote "giving" and somehow you read that "taken"

Meh, parliament did not have the ability to block this EU legislative process, afforded to it by treaty,whichever way you look at it.

 

[pastafarian]

Am I correct in thinking that if no negotiated agreement is reached in the next 8 months then we will automatically leave the EU with no extension and straight onto WTO rules ?

Yes.
Unless there is agreement to extend the negotiations

Thank you

So we find ourselves in this position 8 months to go no agreement yet purely because the government triggered artical 50 when there was no need to do so and without a clear agreement within government as to what its negotiating stance was going to be!

80% of the withdrawal treaty has been agreed. Negotiations could not begin until Article 50 notice was given which the EU themselves said, a few days after the referendum, should be done as quickly as possible.They also could not adopt negotiating guidelines until we had given in our notice.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

https://twitter.com/marieannuk/status/1018140541555527680?s=21

 

[Two Professors]

I have to say that for 50 odd years I never thought I was that clever

But, compared to you, I've realised I'm a complete f***ing genius

And, in your interests, I really think you should calm down petal. Maybe take a lead from [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION]. While equally stupid, his puff and porn consumption at least seems to keep him calm.

For 50 odd years you were right.Perhaps you have been getting stupider every year until you reached dimwit.You said nobody else in the World traded under WTO rules.The PNG is a screenshot of a BBC News item quoting EU Commission facts about Great Britain and the countries trading under WTO rules.So you are right,but your gods are wrong?



Here is a new board game that sums you up to a t.

 

[Hampster Gull]

https://twitter.com/marieannuk/status/1018140541555527680?s=21

Spot on. Post the referendum the Brexitears have been arguing that the ballot paper said something different to the words tabled. Either schools really have been under performing for a certain segment of the population for decades and we now have a disproportionate proportion of Brexitears who struggle with simple English or we have a bunch of Brexiteers who are complete chancers.

 

[The Clamp]

As someone who would probably vote Tory, the sooner she is gone the better. She was crap in the home office, ran a disaster out campaign and is completely incompetent as a PM. Saying that, there’s very few MPs (from any party) who I find inspire confidence.

Nail on head. All Brexit stuff aside, she's a disaster.

 

[The Clamp]

It beggars belief. Remain and Pro-EU have managed to slow down the rash departure, generated some debate and given the whole matter a bit of rational breathing space. Yet still, yet still, the whole process is being mangled by the Brexiteers. I mean, honest to bloody goodness, how many chances do you want to actually make a good fist of this?

Here's a hint though: It will never be right because of the simple fact that Brexit is not the right thing to do. You can dress it up, negotiate it, deride it, praise it....It will never work because at it's very core it is wrong.

 

[Hampster Gull]

It beggars belief. Remain and Pro-EU have managed to slow down the rash departure, generated some debate and given the whole matter a bit of rational breathing space. Yet still, yet still, the whole process is being mangled by the Brexiteers. I mean, honest to bloody goodness, how many chances do you want to actually make a good fist of this?

Here's a hint though: It will never be right because of the simple fact that Brexit is not the right thing to do. You can dress it up, negotiate it, deride it, praise it....It will never work because at it's very core it is wrong.

I think deep down everyone agrees Clamp

 

[Blue3]

Yes.
Unless there is agreement to extend the negotiations



80% of the withdrawal treaty has been agreed. Negotiations could not begin until Article 50 notice was given which the EU themselves said, a few days after the referendum, should be done as quickly as possible.They also could not adopt negotiating guidelines until we had given in our notice.

But we rushed triggering article 50 and then spent the next two years coming up with a plan would it not have been better to have a plan first?

 

[larus]

So apart from the fact that we will be the only country in the world trading only on WTO terms (Mauritania, the other country who were solely on WTO terms has now joined the Economic Community of West African States. As a result, it now has preferential trade arrangements with some 20 WTO members).

We are now going to implement WTO terms with no borders, border controls, customs or processes to manage the terms, because you don't think these are needed. And when the establishment and business tell you different, you don't believe them because they constantly lie.

Even the massive amounts we export outside the EU, we export on the preferred EU terms because we are part of the EU. The processes in place are EU ones, not WTO ones

And there was me thinking TM's Max Fac solution was fantasy

You constantly try to make out you know so much about this, yet lots of commentators are saying that WTO is not the end of the world as you say. Also, you go on about the EU trade deals. These will be in GOODS. That don’t help us a load now does is Sherlock as we are predeominantly a SERVICES based economy.

Do try to keep up at the back OK . Maybe your 50 years plus of thinking you’re not so smart was the best thing you’ve done in your life

 

[pastafarian]

But we rushed triggering article 50 and then spent the next two years coming up with a plan would it not have been better to have a plan first?

If you consider 9 months rushing it so be it.
You are forgetting all plans are subject to negotiations and forgetting the latest rolled out plan is on the future relationship. This aspect of the withdrawal agreement was not able to be discussed until now, so in that regard you havnt waited 2 years, you have waited since the withdrawal agreement reached a certain phase to formulate a plan based on what has already been agreed.
Lets not forget the EU only published their plan on the future partnership a few weeks ago, and its always best to let them show their hand first.

 

[The Clamp]

The Leave voters reaction to this utter shambles is predictable, idiotic and, I'd like to say naive but I think we all know they are not naive on this count, they know full well they have ****ed up big time. Unfortunately for themselves and the country as a whole they do not have the character or mental fortitude to admit when they are wrong. A trait that they display on all topics, not just Brexit. I feel sorry for them.