[Politics] Brexit

[ManOfSussex]

You could have played class warrior jizz biscuit together, i hear its all the rage amongst virtue signallers.

Since you're here, and a notorious pervert out of interest in your opinion, Cathy Newman off Channel 4 News or Emily Maitlis off Newsnight?

 

[The Clamp]

Last time I checked it was a remainer heading the negotiations. What we have now is some bodged up proposal, yes it takes us further away from the EU than before, but it's not really Leaving the EU at all, is it?. Just got to wait and see what happens.

Yeah, let's wait and see. That's been a great tactic so far.

 

[pastafarian]

Since you're here, and a notorious pervert out of interest in your opinion, Cathy Newman off Channel 4 News or Emily Maitlis off Newsnight?

To do what? Iron my shirts?

 

[ManOfSussex]

To do what? Iron my shirts?

You wouldn't be able to do anything different, I'm sure.

They're nutjobs them Northern Irish people though. Is Brexit really worth it?

 

[pastafarian]

You wouldn't be able to do anything different, I'm sure.

They're nutjobs them Northern Irish people though. Is Brexit really worth it?

Wtf are you going on about?
Bit early even for you to be this drunk

 

[The Clamp]

I'd given up on this thread but watching the Brxiteers scrabbling, snivelling and desperately trying to make out they knew all this was going to happen and pretending it's okay really has breathed some new life into it.

 

[The Clamp]

Since you're here, and a notorious pervert out of interest in your opinion, Cathy Newman off Channel 4 News or Emily Maitlis off Newsnight?

And more importantly, which category would he file them under? Porn, Nasty Porn, Really Nasty Porn or Spare Porn ?

 

[pastafarian]

And more importantly, which category would he file them under? Porn, Nasty Porn, Really Nasty Porn or Spare Porn ?

Gullible as ever I see, must be embarrassing being you getting fooled so often into predicting so much wrong.
Have you considered being more like Nibble instead and simply be a vacuous airhead?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I'd given up on this thread but watching the Brxiteers scrabbling, snivelling and desperately trying to make out they knew all this was going to happen and pretending it's okay really has breathed some new life into it.

Come off it Nibble - you slunk off after you were proven to be a liar. You've gradually come back with oh so cutting comments about leavers hoping nobody had noticed you !

 

[Baldseagull]

It is a red herring,good regulations(mobile phone roaming) or detrimental exclusive competence regulations (common fisheries policy) are not the crux of the issue, the principle is parliament losing these powers in the first place
Yes parliament agreed via treaties to cede some of its powers to the EU, guess what, loads of people have hated it ever did so.
We are now leaving and those treaties are being torn up.

We didn't lose those powers, we chose to share those powers with others, we make those laws together. After we leave, whatever deal is done, what the EU does will affect us, but we will have far less influence.

 

[Baldseagull]

we have ultimate power to fully withdraw, cease all agreements and treaties. all in or all out. we do not have the powers to pick and chose individual laws, regulations, etc. no cherry picking remember?

why wouldn't you accept this when you have been arguing in favour for this devolution of power to remain. its very very odd.

I wouldn't, but the question is do we have Sovereignty?, not do we have common sense?

 

[Hampster Gull]

I'd given up on this thread but watching the Brxiteers scrabbling, snivelling and desperately trying to make out they knew all this was going to happen and pretending it's okay really has breathed some new life into it.

Indeed. This mess is all apparently remainers fault ��. And that Mays version of leaving the EU is unDemocratic, it’s not what the 17m voted for which they know because they know all 17m. This would be hilarious if it was so tragic and avoidable

 

[GT49er]

I'd given up on this thread but watching the Brxiteers scrabbling, snivelling and desperately trying to make out they knew all this was going to happen and pretending it's okay really has breathed some new life into it.

Idiotic comment. Anyone (remainer, leaver or neutral) reading this thread objectively would see that the ones who 'know' everything that's going to happen are the remainers (aka remoaners), constantly predicting doom and gloom and the downfall of our country.
Their fellow travellers in Westminster (a huge majority of MPs, Lords and commons) and Whitehall (civil service manadarins) are hell-bent on helping them achieve their wishes, to sabotage Brexit and try to make the moaning a self-fulfilling prophecy..

 

[WATFORD zero]

Idiotic comment. Anyone (remainer, leaver or neutral) reading this thread objectively would see that the ones who 'know' everything that's going to happen are the remainers (aka remoaners), constantly predicting doom and gloom and the downfall of our country.
Their fellow travellers in Westminster (a huge majority of MPs, Lords and commons) and Whitehall (civil service manadarins) are hell-bent on helping them achieve their wishes, to sabotage Brexit and try to make the moaning a self-fulfilling prophecy..

Of course it was the remainers who told you what would happen. It was so bloody obvious that there were only two Brexit options. You were told the reasons why you wouldn't get a WTO 'no deal' but you just stuck your fingers in your ears and shouted 'Project Fear'. You were told it would be the softest of soft Brexits (what the f*** did you think was going to happen on the NI/Ireland border ), but ignored what you were told and voted for it anyway.

Now you've got what you voted for, it's everyone else's fault

 

[astralavi]

Idiotic comment. Anyone (remainer, leaver or neutral) reading this thread objectively would see that the ones who 'know' everything that's going to happen are the remainers (aka remoaners), constantly predicting doom and gloom and the downfall of our country.
Their fellow travellers in Westminster (a huge majority of MPs, Lords and commons) and Whitehall (civil service manadarins) are hell-bent on helping them achieve their wishes, to sabotage Brexit and try to make the moaning a self-fulfilling prophecy..

No, brextreamists are the ones that own this mess 100 per cent

 

[portslade seagull]

No, brextreamists are the ones that own this mess 100 per cent

Think you'll find it was the remainers who started this mess and own it when remainer Major Cameron gave the vote in the belief he wouldn't get beaten. No vote = No mess.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Think you'll find it was the remainers who started this mess and own it when remainer Major Cameron gave the vote in the belief he wouldn't get beaten. No vote = No mess.

The man should be hung, drawn and quartered for putting party politics before the interests of the nation. Cameron saw it as an opportunity to quieten the Europhiles for ever. Cameron and Osborne were so arrogantly confident of victory that they did very little preparation for a different outcome. They didn't think it was possible because they were out of touch with the grass roots electorate. The Old Etonians couldn't see the Western World starting to move in a different direction. They singularly failed to appreciate that a lot of people were fed up with the Old Order, The Establishment. The mood was one of change.
Cameron's appalling efforts at negotiating a better deal for us within Europe was the final straw for many. We were putting more and more into the EU coffers and getting less and less out. The campaign disintegrated into cheap mud slinging and sound bite slogans rather than solid facts. A lot of people out there simply said..." enough is enough, they cannot deliver a better deal for us, The EU is sticking two fingers up to us, we want change "

 

[larus]

Indeed. This mess is all apparently remainers fault ��. And that Mays version of leaving the EU is unDemocratic, it’s not what the 17m voted for which they know because they know all 17m. This would be hilarious if it was so tragic and avoidable

Funny that the remainers make the claim that they know that people didn’t vote to leave the CU etc.

What was crystal clear in the referendum was:
1. Take control of our borders. I.e. end of free movement.
2. No more large payments to the EU (it was clear that there may be some payments depending upon the final agreement).
3. Ability to negotiate own trade agreements.
4. Aim to get a trade agreement with the EU (I will admit that this was made to sound easier than it is proving to be, but the EU as showing no willingness to be flexible, however, there were lies/mid-leading statements from the remain side too).

As long as points 1-3 are stuck to, then that would be an implementation of Brexit. Anything less than that is a failure to do so.

Let me ask you a question. If the Referendum, result had been the other way, but still 52% to 48%, would you have been saying we need to renegotiate out relationship with the EU to take into account the Vote Leave concerns?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Think you'll find it was the remainers who started this mess and own it when remainer Major Cameron gave the vote in the belief he wouldn't get beaten. No vote = No mess.

So it was Cameron's fault that you did something stupid and now don't like the consequences

 

[portslade seagull]

So it was Cameron's fault that you did something stupid and now don't like the consequences

Oh my god thickness doesn't even describe you maybe dense is more appropiate. Who allowed the vote ? Hmmmm. If he wasn't so cocksure probably like you this scenario would never have happened.
The stupid ones were the remain camp within the government at the time who went ahead with it in the 1st place.
Ever since it has been attempts to belittle the Yes voters for doing something none ever believed they would have the chance to.

Come on then who's fault is it that we have ended up where we are ?