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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,101


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,210
West is BEST
"Oh darling. We are so funny and amusing aren't we. At least we make each other laugh with our comments. We're the bestest online friends ever."

I'm trying to work out if you 2 are saddos or weirdos :lol:

Seriously lad, **** off now yeah. The joke is wearing a little thin. I'm off for a walk along the river and a pub lunch. Hopefully you'll feel better later. :bigwave:
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,750
The Fatherland
I'm very calm, but your concerns are appreciated. Maybe you'd like to apply the same reasoning to your puppy :lol:.

I've also noticed the lack of answers to any questions - just pathetic quips. Carry on if it makes you happy. I can imagine you sniggering away like a little boy as you write something which amuses your tiny mind whilst everyone else rolls their eyes at you.

It’s time for brunch. Have a nice day.
 


larus

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Honestly mate, probably best to take the advice of a couple of more experienced chaps. We've given you an excuse for your angry behaviour, a hangover. Best to take that rather than have everyone think you are just a naturally angry little keyboard warrior. Go and get your nut down in front of the telly for an hour. Where is T4 when you need it eh! Have a good day.

Still waiting for you to explain this recession 'mate'.

No hangover - just off to the gym actually 'mate'. Not a big drinker so you're wrong again. But, let's face it, that is your only skill (constant failure).
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,750
The Fatherland
just off to the gym actually 'mate'.

This is the most sensible thing you’ve ever said. I think an hour or two at the gym will have you feeling much better.
 




The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,210
West is BEST
Still waiting for you to explain this recession 'mate'.

No hangover - just off to the gym actually 'mate'. Not a big drinker so you're wrong again. But, let's face it, that is your only skill (constant failure).

I'll just assume you're a bit of a penis then. Enjoy the gym, should help with that anger. Wear yourself out like a puppy.
 


larus

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This is the most sensible thing you’ve ever said. I think an hour or two at the gym will have you feeling much better.


And you have the audacity to question my posts. You like to throw insults around, but get precious if things are said back to you or our lap-dog(s). Just a hypocrite. Hows the predictions going? Managed to get one right yet? Stopped clock and all that eh!
 








The Clamp

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NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,210
West is BEST
Hahaah. Oh dear, couldn't supress the rage long enough to even get to the gym. That's one of the funniest things I have seen on here for a long, long time. Thank you Larus. Thank you. Go to the gym ya silly sod.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,750
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And you have the audacity to question my posts. You like to throw insults around, but get precious if things are said back to you or our lap-dog(s). Just a hypocrite. Hows the predictions going? Managed to get one right yet? Stopped clock and all that eh!

You go to the gym. I go for brunch. :salute:
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
I'm not 'claiming ' anything about any polls, ICM (whoever they are) or anybody else.

But you are claiming something. You're claiming that the people ICM polled were actually Remain voters. If true, this could only have been done intentionally by ECM.
 




Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
6,362
It's not clever to gloat while there is still so much at stake and so much to be decided.
The future is one of unity and co-operation not polarity and isolationism. You have voted against progress and there is nothing short term about that. The negative ramifications of the referendum result will be felt for generations to come.

Have you studied history?
Do you actually have a clue what goes on under the guise of the EU? You talk of progress. What progress? Do you realise we are controlled by a round table of European industrialists and financiers, an oligarchy of the super rich. The Germans planned for a Fourth Reich at the end of the War. Economic domination of Europe. They succeeded. For years their banks were buying industrial stock in countries they subsequently invaded and they continued to do this post-war. In 1973, the UK was the dominant force in heavy industry in Europe. Its all gone now. As it has also been dismantled in other European countries. The Germans created their own industrial cartel. All companies within the cartel benefitted from new business. They wanted their cartel to operate throughout Europe, with no boundaries, hence the push to create the Common Market. They wanted an economic and financial empire and they wanted their banks to buy up stock everywhere, which would eventually suck other countries dry.
The Nazi's acquired huge wealth when in power and with the help of the Swiss, hid a lot of it in that spineless country and distributed the rest of it all around the globe. This wealth helped Germany rebuild far quicker than they would normally and established trading links abroad. They are now untouchable and control European affairs from top to bottom. The politicians are way down the food chain, puppets of the system. The German banks are powerful enough to destroy other countries, as they did with Greece. The Germans wanted control of European heavy industry and they cleverly bought enough stock to ensure it happened.
In this country, we were led to believe that we were joining a common trading market. Economic co-operation. Tariff free trading looked attractive. Some of the knowing ones saw the signs. They could see the agenda ahead but we ploughed on and as our industry dwindled away, we poured more and more money into an organisation that morphed into something that no-one voted for, a European superstate, with Germany at its head.
A lot of people who voted Leave, did so because they saw over the years a change in the status of this country. A loss of sovereignty and a loss of control. They have seen our industrial wealth melt away and they have seen the rise of the super rich oligarchy, pulling the strings, whilst we all dance to their tune. They suspect the EU will eventually crash and burn and history suggests that it will happen. They are fed up being controlled by banks and seeing proud countries like Greece, discarded like a irritant and thrown to the dogs.
There is nothing progressive about the EU. It specialises in restrictive practice. It is corrupt and protective. It benefits certain members to the detriment of others. New countries will be encouraged to join and will then be exploited. It is too large and too unwieldy. Its an expensive bureaucratic gravy train, loved by thousands of non-wealth generating politicians and civil servants, who cannot believe their luck at feasting at this table of largesse, that all the rest of us pay for.
Many have bought into the European dream and are not interested in this country standing alone. They feel we need a protective arm around us and as long as we keep pumping bucketloads of money into other peoples pockets we will be safe and looked after and can all share common interests. The problem is, there hasn't been a common interest for a long time now and there never will be. It is a failed project, that has hugely benefitted a few and hugely damaged many.
 








The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,210
West is BEST
Have you studied history?
Do you actually have a clue what goes on under the guise of the EU? You talk of progress. What progress? Do you realise we are controlled by a round table of European industrialists and financiers, an oligarchy of the super rich. The Germans planned for a Fourth Reich at the end of the War. Economic domination of Europe. They succeeded. For years their banks were buying industrial stock in countries they subsequently invaded and they continued to do this post-war. In 1973, the UK was the dominant force in heavy industry in Europe. Its all gone now. As it has also been dismantled in other European countries. The Germans created their own industrial cartel. All companies within the cartel benefitted from new business. They wanted their cartel to operate throughout Europe, with no boundaries, hence the push to create the Common Market. They wanted an economic and financial empire and they wanted their banks to buy up stock everywhere, which would eventually suck other countries dry.
The Nazi's acquired huge wealth when in power and with the help of the Swiss, hid a lot of it in that spineless country and distributed the rest of it all around the globe. This wealth helped Germany rebuild far quicker than they would normally and established trading links abroad. They are now untouchable and control European affairs from top to bottom. The politicians are way down the food chain, puppets of the system. The German banks are powerful enough to destroy other countries, as they did with Greece. The Germans wanted control of European heavy industry and they cleverly bought enough stock to ensure it happened.
In this country, we were led to believe that we were joining a common trading market. Economic co-operation. Tariff free trading looked attractive. Some of the knowing ones saw the signs. They could see the agenda ahead but we ploughed on and as our industry dwindled away, we poured more and more money into an organisation that morphed into something that no-one voted for, a European superstate, with Germany at its head.
A lot of people who voted Leave, did so because they saw over the years a change in the status of this country. A loss of sovereignty and a loss of control. They have seen our industrial wealth melt away and they have seen the rise of the super rich oligarchy, pulling the strings, whilst we all dance to their tune. They suspect the EU will eventually crash and burn and history suggests that it will happen. They are fed up being controlled by banks and seeing proud countries like Greece, discarded like a irritant and thrown to the dogs.
There is nothing progressive about the EU. It specialises in restrictive practice. It is corrupt and protective. It benefits certain members to the detriment of others. New countries will be encouraged to join and will then be exploited. It is too large and too unwieldy. Its an expensive bureaucratic gravy train, loved by thousands of non-wealth generating politicians and civil servants, who cannot believe their luck at feasting at this table of largesse, that all the rest of us pay for.
Many have bought into the European dream and are not interested in this country standing alone. They feel we need a protective arm around us and as long as we keep pumping bucketloads of money into other peoples pockets we will be safe and looked after and can all share common interests. The problem is, there hasn't been a common interest for a long time now and there never will be. It is a failed project, that has hugely benefitted a few and hugely damaged many.

You're paranoid bordering on conspiracy and more importantly you're wrong.
 






Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
I suppose we could go through this line by line but to take just one point (simply because it's right in the middle of the piece) can you give specific evidence to support your claim that 'the Germans wanted control of heavy industry and cleverly bought enough stock to ensure it happened'. Which Germans? Which industries? Which countries?
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
I suppose we could go through this line by line but to take just one point (simply because it's right in the middle of the piece) can you give specific evidence to support your claim that 'the Germans wanted control of heavy industry and cleverly bought enough stock to ensure it happened'. Which Germans? Which industries? Which countries?

NO NEED TO, WE'RE LEAVING THE EU REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S BEEN CLAIMED :thumbsup:
regards
DR
 


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