[Politics] Brexit

[ManOfSussex]

Foster sounded in a mess on air earlier. First she lost the Unionist majority for the first time ever (they still hold more Westminster seats due to FPTP vs PR) in a Stormont election she could have avoided; and now it looks like she's being given the option of a civil partnership with Dublin vs probably a Labour govt in the UK if she forces a Westminster election. Doesn't seem to be taking it well.

Sammy Wilson was fuming on Sky News a little while back too.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

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more adult conversation
regards
DR

 

[seagulls4ever]

The BBC understands that Theresa May broke off her talks with Jean-Claude Juncker after the Democratic Unionist Party leader, Arlene Foster, held a press conference saying the party could not accept anything that led to divergence between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

The prime minister then phoned Ms Foster. During the call it was made plain to the PM that the DUP, whose support is vital to the government being able to pass their Brexit legislation, had significant concerns about the deal being discussed that gave concessions to the Dublin government.

I understand Ms Foster told Theresa May that she would not be able to support such a deal.

It’s been suggested too there are twenty or so Conservative MPs who had serious misgivings about the compromises that were understood to be on the table.

Did Mrs May not consider consulting with Ms Foster and the DUP first?

I'm voting "she doesn't know what she's doing".

 

[The Clamp]

Oh deary me! The Brextremists are not enjoying the collapse of their precious Brexit. I'm enjoying watching it getting negotiated and backtracked out of existence!

 

[pb21]

This is all May’s fault (well Dave’s too I guess), she should never have called a GE after Article 50. It was obvious at the time and now we are paying the price; is this the worst political miscalculation and general f*ck up ever, time will tell I guess, wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

This is all May’s fault (well Dave’s too I guess), she should never have called a GE after Article 50. It was obvious at the time and now we are paying the price; is this the worst political miscalculation and general f*ck up ever, time will tell I guess, wouldn’t be surprised.

She'll go on another holiday walk and then decide to resign ?

 

[Two Professors]

I'm not arguing WHY it is under discussion, Two Village Idiots. I'm trying to make you see Sturgeon's point, which is that if any constituent part of the UK can negotiate to remain de-facto part of the EU, then it could surely apply to all.

And as I've said before, in reality the driver behind this is not the land border as much as the Good Friday Agreement, but you keep on harping on about the land border and missing the point spectacularly as I know you struggle understanding basic reasoning.

You are better entertainment than anything on the telly.Do you think lorries are going to cross the Good Friday Agreement,or the land border into Ulster?Do you even understand where the island is,or do you think there is a magical irishpixy bridge to Brussels?

 

[Two Professors]

She'll go on another holiday walk and then decide to resign ?

And walk off into the sunset,with Nige and Don on her arms?

 

[Simster]

You are better entertainment than anything on the telly.Do you think lorries are going to cross the Good Friday Agreement,or the land border into Ulster?Do you even understand where the island is,or do you think there is a magical irishpixy bridge to Brussels?

You don't appear to understand Nicola Sturgeon's point. That's fine - you're a bit special.

Oh deary me! The Brextremists are not enjoying the collapse of their precious Brexit. I'm enjoying watching it getting negotiated and backtracked out of existence!

I honestly can't see how this is going to play out. The idea we won't be leaving the EU seems fanciful though, sadly - the nation remains in the grip of people like John Redwood and Iain Duncan Smith.

 

[Pavilionaire]

well you've managed to drag your moaning out this long so who knows? , you're sounding pretty desperate with every post you make now, after a while I suppose you really do believe what your posting is going to make a big difference in the final outcome , kidding yourself along the path to leaving the EU , sorry to shatter your dreams
regards
DR

You really are ****1ng pr1ck.

Regards

 

[pastafarian]

I cant imagine what it is, that scares the shit out of Brextremists whenever a 2nd referendum is mentioned.

Nobody is scared. Its just a waste of time proposal given there was a parliamentary vote not to have another one and no one can envisage a Liberal Party government that would be needed for new legislation and a New Referendum Act…..all before march 2019

Original vote
Instruction to Leave the EU

In keeping with the democratic decision to Leave.

Proposed next vote on the deal(2nd referendum)
1/ Should the UK Leave the EU whilst accepting the withdrawal agreement.
Or
2/ Should the UK Leave the EU whilst rejecting the withdrawal agreement.

I cant see what extra dimension a public vote will add to the parliamentary vote already going to happen on this. Seems perfectly reasonable to let parliament be the decider on this one. You lot hate referendums anyway, and prefer governments to govern, bit odd to start liking them now.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What a shambles And all predicted by the Remainers.

 

[brightn'ove]

We’re being held to ransom by 10 religious fundamentalists. Well done everyone, top work.

 

[WATFORD zero]

What a shambles And all predicted by the Remainers.

To be fair, most people who had given any thought to Brexit, on both sides realised on 24th June 2016 that N.Ireland may be a bit of a problem but, as with every other issue, it was kicked into the long grass until the last possible date (today).

It seems that highlighting the perspective issues in advance is 'talking the country down'. And each time I have got into a conversation with [MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] or [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] (I can't be arsed with the Two Profs, Ppf or the Nasty Porn King) they have always ended up with 'Well what do you think we should do ?"

So, just to make it clear what I would do.

1/ I wouldn't follow the signs that say 'To shit creek'

2/ I DEFINITELY wouldn't throw away my f***ing paddle

 

[mikeyjh]

We’re being held to ransom by 10 religious fundamentalists. Well done everyone, top work.

I didn't think that Theresa May was retarded but to think the DUP were ever going to sign up for a de facto split between the UK and NI, she's a ****ing lunatic

 

[daveinprague]

Nobody is scared. Its just a waste of time proposal given there was a parliamentary vote not to have another one and no one can envisage a Liberal Party government that would be needed for new legislation and a New Referendum Act…..all before march 2019

Original vote
Instruction to Leave the EU

In keeping with the democratic decision to Leave.

Proposed next vote on the deal(2nd referendum)
1/ Should the UK Leave the EU whilst accepting the withdrawal agreement.
Or
2/ Should the UK Leave the EU whilst rejecting the withdrawal agreement.

I cant see what extra dimension a public vote will add to the parliamentary vote already going to happen on this. Seems perfectly reasonable to let parliament be the decider on this one. You lot hate referendums anyway, and prefer governments to govern, bit odd to start liking them now.

Calm down.

 

[pastafarian]

Calm down.

Very calm Dave, we are leaving the EU despite a couple of clowns on here believing todays hiccup means Brexit is collapsing and wont happen.
Let me know when a New Referendum Act(insert year) passes through parliament..........i wont hold my breath.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

I didn't think that Theresa May was retarded but to think the DUP were ever going to sign up for a de facto split between the UK and NI, she's a ****ing lunatic

As a Remainer, I'd like to say I saw this sh*t storm coming but I didn't and I'm still trying to get my head around it. It looks to me as if May is caught between a rock and a hard place

1. UK maintains soft border with Eire - DUP pulls out of the agreement to keep May afloat - political suicide for May?

2. UK agrees implements hard border then Eire will simply veto any final Brexit deal? Suicide for May.

If UK stays in the Customs Union = no border problem, but the hard-line Brexiteers (some of them on this thread) will go mad. Would Labour then support May to push this version through? Surely not: they'd go for a General Election and take their chances.

I'm not sure if anyone could have written this situation as a narrative - but surely May should have seen it coming at some point. And of course had she not called the Election she wouldn't be in thrall with the DUP. And even the Good Friday Agreement isn't a trump card: the DUP weren't party to it. And just to throw into the mix that NI voted to remain. I've been following politics for 50 years and have never seen anything quite like this.

I even heard one Leaver MP saying the problem will be solved when Eire leaves the EU too!

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

We’re being held to ransom by 10 religious fundamentalists. Well done everyone, top work.

Wait until the little councils in Belgium have their say [emoji38]ol:

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Krankie is as stupid as the clown on here that wouldn't admit that Turkey had a border with Syria.
Come on then Nicci baby,where is Scotland's land border with the EU?

Public announcement. Two Professors is either barely sentient or a two-bit liar. There is no other possibity.