[Politics] Brexit

[El Presidente]

Big business publicly backs the EU/government line shock.

I'm sure German business/industry are quite relaxed at seeing tens of Billions of yearly trade put at risk/ending

Trade won't end, the goods will simply be more expensive for UK consumers.

The referendum result has to be respected, but the economic consequences should be accepted too.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Indeed. It appears the Impster has given up directly arguing his pov with me (don't blame him) and now presumes to read my mind while misrepresenting and inserting some unpleasant views.

What? You have regularly hammered into 'such people' describing them as undemocratic and mentally-retarded. Let me know which views you regard as unpleasant.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Final polls showed leave winning. But don't let that get in the way. Facts are so 20th century.

Many more polls including final ones suggested Remain would win. Fact

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/?mhq5j=e2

 

[JC Footy Genius]

What? You have regularly hammered into 'such people' describing them as undemocratic and mentally-retarded. Let me know which views you regard as unpleasant.

When have I regularly described people as mentally retarded?

 

[daveinprague]

Many more polls including final ones suggested Remain would win. Fact

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/?mhq5j=e2

They would now. Thats why brexiteers lose their minds if another vote is even muted. Incidentally, when, as I suspect, the country faces a nightmare because of brexit, will there be new room names appearing on NSC?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Trade won't end, the goods will simply be more expensive for UK consumers.

The referendum result has to be respected, but the economic consequences should be accepted too.

Agreed if tariffs are put in place and for EU consumers too.

 

[larus]

Final polls showed leave winning. But don't let that get in the way. Facts are so 20th century.

Exit poll showed remain winning - remember the Farage statement about looking like they'd lost. Yeah, facts are so last year.

 

[larus]

Trade won't end, the goods will simply be more expensive for UK consumers.

The referendum result has to be respected, but the economic consequences should be accepted too.

Fully agreed, but people should stop using opinion about the economic consequences as fact.

I'll tell you a fact - we don't know what the end deal will be as it's down to 2 sides negotiating, so all of the remainers who keep going on about "doom and gloom" have not got a f*cking clue, as we don't know what it's going to be. And, other large economies appear to be very open to trade deals with the UK.

The economic consequences could be very good for the UK, so remainers need to be open to that outcome. After all, when the EURO fails (which it will in its current guise), then there will be turmoil in Europe.

 

[daveinprague]

Could, maybe, possibly

 

[JC Footy Genius]

They would now. Thats why brexiteers lose their minds if another vote is even muted. Incidentally, when, as I suspect, the country faces a nightmare because of brexit, will there be new room names appearing on NSC?

Why would we fear polls showing remain leading .. we've been here before, how did that turn out?

Brexiteers and many remainers have a respect for the democratic process but they get a tad annoyed at the undemocratic extremist loony remoaner fringe.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

I'm sure German business/industry are quite relaxed at seeing tens of Billions of yearly trade put at risk/ending

I'm sure they're not but the controlling shareholders of BMW have said that they are prepared to write off their eurobillions of investment in the UK rather than see the integrity of the single market compromised. There may be a way of negotiating through the fog but there is a danger in assuming that foreign types (Germans specifically) are interested only in short term economics.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

When have I regularly described people as mentally retarded?

You regularly imply that they are simple-minded. I assume it is one of your little pleasures.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Exit poll showed remain winning - remember the Farage statement about looking like they'd lost. Yeah, facts are so last year.

And you'll remember Farage saying he would fight on for another referendum if that was the case.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I'm sure they're not but the controlling shareholders of BMW have said that they are prepared to write off their eurobillions of investment in the UK rather than see the integrity of the single market compromised. There may be a way of negotiating through the fog but there is a danger in assuming that foreign types (Germans specifically) are interested only in short term economics.

Protecting 'the integrity of the Single Market' is rather a vague term I'm not sure what that means in practice. Completely agree there are many factors our European friends will consider both long and short term.

 

[ManOfSussex]

I'm sure they're not but the controlling shareholders of BMW have said that they are prepared to write off their eurobillions of investment in the UK rather than see the integrity of the single market compromised. There may be a way of negotiating through the fog but there is a danger in assuming that foreign types (Germans specifically) are interested only in short term economics.

I wouldn't worry. Owen Patterson has been saying for months that there has to be a deal - has to be because there has to be - so it'll probably be okay.

 

[El Presidente]

Agreed if tariffs are put in place and for EU consumers too.

They will be, the problem from a UK perspective is that manufacturing is only 14% of GDP, and therefore physical exports are relatively insignificant.

UK consumers prefer foreign goods to domestic ones, for a variety of reasons, but will have to pay more for them, as we have seen in the last 12 months due to the fall in sterling. This has led to an increase in the current account deficit.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

You regularly imply that they are simple-minded. I assume it is one of your little pleasures.

You found no examples of me describing anyone as 'mentally retarded' then. Can you find any examples where I imply people are simple minded?

 

[Two Professors]

Ok, well best of luck with putting those delusional lefties straight.

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Thanks for that!Impossible task,they should be put down,like a rabid dog.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm sure they're not but the controlling shareholders of BMW have said that they are prepared to write off their eurobillions of investment in the UK rather than see the integrity of the single market compromised. There may be a way of negotiating through the fog but there is a danger in assuming that foreign types (Germans specifically) are interested only in short term economics.

Agree. And I'll add assuming that foreign types are only interested in money. The German car industry didn't kick up a fuss over the costly sanctions on Russia.

 

[Two Professors]

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...exit_from_and_partnership_with_the_EU_Web.pdf

2.1 The sovereignty of Parliament is a fundamental principle of the UK constitution. Whilst
Parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU, it has not always
felt like that. The extent of EU activity relevant to the UK can be demonstrated by the fact
that 1,056 EU-related documents were deposited for parliamentary scrutiny in 2016. These
include proposals for EU Directives, Regulations, Decisions and Recommendations, as well
as Commission delegated acts, and other documents such as Commission Communications,
Reports and Opinions submitted to the Council, Court of Auditors Reports and more.



It just 'felt like it' .. well done that 49%. Well grasped.

1,056 EU related documents?Without that lot,maybe our MP's could do some work related to the UK instead.That's a good enough reason to leave on it's own!