[Politics] Brexit

[Butch Willykins]

It is a product of a subsidiary of an Indian company. What occurs with the Czech car industry is fairly pointless comparison, as to what my Czech 'buddies' feel about Skoda being a SUBSIDIARY OF ANOTHER NATIONS COMPANY. JLR is now a SUBSIDIARY of an Indian company. Thats it..

Why is my comparison between Skoda and JLR pointless? It's pretty much exactly the same situation.

 

[sydney]

tha EU is a family ....your either in or out......never a doubt that exiting the EU would have certain negative effects but surly with DECENT AND PROPER GOVERNMENT the country will pull through and find it's own standard in the years to come , you have to really ask yourself , is the country run by the apparently clueless faces that you see jabbering away on the telly box or is it run by the financial gargoyles from behind the scenes.........England is such a fantastic and beautiful country but it is being shafted by greed and incompetent government.....imho.

 

[daveinprague]

Why is my comparison between Skoda and JLR pointless? It's pretty much exactly the same situation.

there is no point as BOTH companies, are subsidiaries of foreign owned companies. So, what difference would it make. Everybody here knows that Skoda is owned by VW. No matter how you look at it. JLR is OWNED by an Indian parent company.

 

[Butch Willykins]

there is no point as BOTH companies, are subsidiaries of foreign owned companies. So, what difference would it make. Everybody here knows that Skoda is owned by VW. No matter how you look at it. JLR is OWNED by an Indian parent company.

I've never pretended JLR are not owned by TATA. But they trade on being a British brand. The cars are designed,engineered and built in the U.K. The Chief Exec describes them as British. When you buy one you can even spec little Union Jack tyre valve caps.

They are considered by consumers (and their Chief Exec) to be British, not Indian, but I somehow imagine you'll disagree.

 

[BadFish]

tha EU is a family ....your either in or out......never a doubt that exiting the EU would have certain negative effects but surly with DECENT AND PROPER GOVERNMENT the country will pull through and find it's own standard in the years to come , you have to really ask yourself , is the country run by the apparently clueless faces that you see jabbering away on the telly box or is it run by the financial gargoyles from behind the scenes.........England is such a fantastic and beautiful country but it is being shafted by greed and incompetent government.....imho.

I agree with you (for a change). My concern is what happens next you talk about a decent and proper government, to me this is a government that governs for the people not the financial gargoyles as you put it. Can such a government be formed? and can said government come up with a see through a plan for prosperity?

Billion dollar questions IMHO

 

[Deleted member 22389]

We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).

Really, who is disappointed with us, is it the fat cat EU Bureaucrats and politicians or normal Europeans. Ask my auntie in Southern Italy what she thinks of the Euro and what she thinks of the EU in general, she wants her country back, she wants her identity back, unfortunately for Italians they will never be given the same chance to strike out on their own like we have.

The EU isn't a relationship on working together, it is do as your told or else. Sooner you wake and up and see what a bunch of bullies and mini dictators the EU has become the better.

All these politicians and leaders in other countries are on a slippery slope. Merkel, Hollande for example, who really like to tell us what to do, have all seen their own popularity slide their own countries, why is that? They got enough of their own problems.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...billion-bank-bailout-Germans-saying-nein.html

 

[sydney]

I agree with you (for a change). My concern is what happens next you talk about a decent and proper government, to me this is a government that governs for the people not the financial gargoyles as you put it. Can such a government be formed? and can said government come up with a see through a plan for prosperity?

Billion dollar questions IMHO

quite......the left are too far left and the right are too far right.....anyone in the middle is cut down quick smart......it is my personal belief that the land of my birth is all but finished as far as being a member of the 1st world......having spent a fair bit off time in asia i see a transition to a society more like indonesia or thailand where you have 20...% of the population holding 90 % of the money and the other 80 % are just doomed to a shit life of struggle and poverty......so much injustice in the welfare system , NHS at breaking point and a huge number of English who are 3rd or 4th generation unemployed and now unemployable......as far ask i'm concerned Europe has been far too benevolent in regards to migrants and refugees and the proof of the pudding is being experienced now for the mistakes of previous policy makers....i don't know the answer to it ....i don't think there is one actually.and i'm not after an argument either ....

 

[nicko31]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...vernment-eu-withdrawal-advisors-a7350691.html

The government should take advice from as many people that know that sh1t as possible right now, are they going to use all British trade negotiators?

To exclude these people is the national interest is pure xenophobia and short sighted

 

[Deleted member 22389]

quite......the left are too far left and the right are too far right.....anyone in the middle is cut down quick smart......it is my personal belief that the land of my birth is all but finished as far as being a member of the 1st world......having spent a fair bit off time in asia i see a transition to a society more like indonesia or thailand where you have 20...% of the population holding 90 % of the money and the other 80 % are just doomed to a shit life of struggle and poverty......so much injustice in the welfare system , NHS at breaking point and a huge number of English who are 3rd or 4th generation unemployed and now unemployable......as far ask i'm concerned Europe has been far too benevolent in regards to migrants and refugees and the proof of the pudding is being experienced now for the mistakes of previous policy makers....i don't know the answer to it ....i don't think there is one actually.and i'm not after an argument either ....

It all started with the banking crisis, the EU sticking their noses in to our business and politicians making stupid decisions, and then pushing people down for having an opinion. It has left people like myself with a feeling that we no longer have a say in anything. A huge part of this problem is with the EU here, because it is with their rules that has caused the most tensions, and their rules that have guided our own politicians. Remove the legal shackles so we can forge a new path in this country, because the EU are holding us back.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It all started with the banking crisis, the EU sticking their noses in to our business and politicians making stupid decisions, and then pushing people down for having an opinion. It has left people like myself with a feeling that we no longer have a say in anything. A huge part of this problem is with the EU here, because it is with their rules that has caused the most tensions, and their rules that have guided our own politicians. Remove the legal shackles so we can forge a new path in this country, because the EU are holding us back.

As someone who has been eligible to vote since the late 60s, we've never felt as if we have a say in anything. If it's not Europe, it's the Americans.

 

[wellquickwoody]

I've never pretended JLR are not owned by TATA. But they trade on being a British brand. The cars are designed,engineered and built in the U.K. The Chief Exec describes them as British. When you buy one you can even spec little Union Jack tyre valve caps.

They are considered by consumers (and their Chief Exec) to be British, not Indian, but I somehow imagine you'll disagree.

Not by British consumers.

 

[portslade seagull]

We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).

Is this your own opinion? Travelled to Europe many times since the vote and the majority seem to think we have done the right thing. The politicians on the other hand with there own agendas

 

[Icy Gull]

Clearly you know your limitations!

Excellent, so rather than copy and paste from something you googled and a facetious response to my previous post perhaps you can explain in layman's terms, to this this thicko, what the article you copied and pasted has to do with the British Car industry? I suggest in this case we sold the family jewels and are now employed by the people we sold them to, to make the cars that they are profiting from, using the names of famous British car makers from history.

I understand what you posted just not how it relates to what was being discussed.

We may make parts for cars, assemble them and we may even export them but we no longer own any of the famous Marques that are now so successful under foreign ownership

Please enlighten me

 

[CHAPPERS]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...vernment-eu-withdrawal-advisors-a7350691.html

The government should take advice from as many people that know that sh1t as possible right now, are they going to use all British trade negotiators?

To exclude these people is the national interest is pure xenophobia and short sighted

I notice Business leaders are getting pretty twitchy with all the hard Brexit talk too. Worrying.

 

[El Presidente]

Corbyns lot appeals to no one outside the cult minority already standing in the circle, patting each other on the back and whacking each other off

Indeed.

The senior shadow cabinet walked into a bar.
It was in North London, so everyone could walk there easily.



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[The Birdman]

Wait and see what happens in Europe in the Elections more votes for anti Common Market parties.
I voted to stay I felt we might be able to change the rules by being at the table, but now we are out we need to hold our nerve and get on with building our trade deals and let's get exporting while the £ is low. We should see a lot more In bound tourism in the next couple of years.
However our overseas holidays are going to be more expensive .
.book early for Cornwall

 

[Butch Willykins]

Not by British consumers.

I tend to disagree. I suspect most British consumers would consider Jaguar and Land Rover to be British marques.

Just as they would consider Volvo Swedish (not Chinese), Lamborghini to be Italian, Skoda Czech and Seat Spanish (Those 3 all being ultimately German owned).

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I see it.

 

[beorhthelm]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...vernment-eu-withdrawal-advisors-a7350691.html

The government should take advice from as many people that know that sh1t as possible right now, are they going to use all British trade negotiators?

To exclude these people is the national interest is pure xenophobia and short sighted

take that story with a large dose of salt, i expect someones got in a tis over being asked to not work on a specific sensitive project. the FO is a long way from xenophobic being the sort of people who have travelled widely.

 

[studio150]

The full impact of Brexit is now emerging with the distress this result will cause.

Life will never be the same again

Brexit could play a part in the next FM17 game release. In a blog post on LinkedIn, Miles Jacobson, the studio director at Sports Interactive, said the UK's decision to leave the EU could affect playing as many more foreign players will now require a work permit. That's just about the only hint at new gameplay features we've heard so far.

But i assume any leavers who play FM immediately ensure they only have a squad of English players

 

[Icy Gull]

I tend to disagree. I suspect most British consumers would consider Jaguar and Land Rover to be British marques.

Just as they would consider Volvo Swedish (not Chinese), Lamborghini to be Italian, Skoda Czech and Seat Spanish (Those 3 all being ultimately German owned).

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I see it.

The marketing has clearly worked on you then

21st century spin for you. The facts take second place to the perception and it cannot be denied that it works.

I know people with foreign owned cars who feel just like you and still think of them as British. In fact some, who are not that interested in cars just the image do still believe that they are actually British owned.