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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Jim in the West

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 13, 2003
4,957
Way out West
Of course, labour are so NICE these days, what with intolerance for anyone who doesn't support Corbyn and all the anti Semitism sloshing around.

Indeed - our political leaders are creating a gaping hole in the centre - Corbyn is leading the new Militant Tendency, and May is leading the new UKIP. This country desperately needs a new party of the centre.
 










nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,600
Gods country fortnightly
There is a huge amount of evidence that we don't, as a country, benefit from a low exchange rate. The simple reason is that we import more than we export. Brexiteers are clutching at ever-fading straws if they think the fall in sterling is good news. It is the best possible indicator that the rest of the world has lost faith in the UK. Believe me, we are in for a VERY rocky road. This is going to get dodgy, and the new REALLY nasty party is making sure that we will soon have zero friends (excluding the deluded Daily Mail immigrant-bashers). We are becoming a total embarrassment.

We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,764
Eastbourne
Indeed - our political leaders are creating a gaping hole in the centre - Corbyn is leading the new Militant Tendency, and May is leading the new UKIP. This country desperately needs a new party of the centre.
That's pretty much what I think. Unfortunately, our country doesn't seem overpopulated with inspiring political leaders at the moment. I noticed that Blair mentioned the lack of middle ground influence and put himself forward as someone who could take up a role again. I don't think he's the answer, most of our current problems are hangovers from his government. :ffsparr:
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
20,584
Playing snooker
I am not a natural Labour voter but I would support Hilary Benn.

Shame he's been marginalised.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,764
Eastbourne
We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).
You keep repeating this 'we are not liked in Europe at all' guff. It's a little rich that you claim to speak on behalf of 500 million people. I've met plenty of Europeans since the vote and not found a shred of dislike for the UK. Many of them thought we'd done the right thing. Most of them were Germans who really dislike the way Merkel has led their country and wish they were out of the EU themselves.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).

The way you bang on about it you'd think every single citizen in Europe is an EU flag waving federalist, it just isn't true.
Most of Europe is as split as we are and the numbers prove it. Check the voting percentages for countries who held a referendum about the European constitution.

Funnily enough they didn't bother asking the people about the Lisbon treaty (The re-badged constitution)
 


The Rivet

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Aug 9, 2011
4,592
Deutsche Bank......... Should the US reduce its fine? They made BP pay $18.7bn for deepwater horizon. Is a bank going to be treated differently, potentially warranting special consideration because it's a bank? Germanys main bank at that. If the fine stood Deutsche could fail with massive consequences for the Euro. I think it should be left to sink.
 
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Weatherman

New member
Jun 10, 2008
323
Christ we've had some tough times in recessions in decades gone bye...I'll happily go back to that as long as we brexit.


I assume a lot of the posters on here wailing and gnashing teeth and forecasting doom and gloom, weren't old enough to remember three day working weeks, power cuts for hours on end, bodies piled up in makeshift morgues, waiting weeks for burial, rubbish piled 12-15 feet high in the streets and rats having a field day. Soaring interest rates and rampant, hyper inflation. Lightning strikes, pickets, ugly civil unrest on the streets, communities at war with each other and schools closed. Hospitals relying on emergency generators, that sometimes failed and the army being called onto the streets to provide cover for vital services.
Still, when you weigh it up, I suppose a falling pound is enough ammunition for us to all go and shoot ourselves.
And the seventies were still the best years to be a teenager. What a bunch of spoilt bleating Liberals they've become over the last 30 years
 


Surf's Up

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
10,442
Here
We're not liked in Europe at all a lot are disappointed in us, frankly I wish I could do a good Irish accent it ain't a good time to be a Brit (though soon we might not even be that).

It may be true that we're not particularly popular with the EU bureaucrats, Hollande and Merkel at the moment but that says more about their own personal insecurity. As far as your avereage european is concerned I think they're just bemused at the outcome of the referendum, as indeed are the majority of the uk population.
 






JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
There is a huge amount of evidence that we don't, as a country, benefit from a low exchange rate. The simple reason is that we import more than we export. Brexiteers are clutching at ever-fading straws if they think the fall in sterling is good news. It is the best possible indicator that the rest of the world has lost faith in the UK. Believe me, we are in for a VERY rocky road. This is going to get dodgy, and the new REALLY nasty party is making sure that we will soon have zero friends (excluding the deluded Daily Mail immigrant-bashers). We are becoming a total embarrassment.

Can you differentiate what percentage of the pounds devaluation is just an inevitable readjustment as many 'experts' have said it has been overvalued for some time and what can specifically be blamed on Brexit?

Also please stop running down this country just because you didn't get your way in the referendum.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
You keep repeating this 'we are not liked in Europe at all' guff. It's a little rich that you claim to speak on behalf of 500 million people. I've met plenty of Europeans since the vote and not found a shred of dislike for the UK. Many of them thought we'd done the right thing. Most of them were Germans who really dislike the way Merkel has led their country and wish they were out of the EU themselves.

There seems to be a group of people on here saying we are no longer liked abroad, have become a nation of haters, a nation of intolerant insular non caring little Englanders. Saying here is not a nice place to live and somewhere where we should be walking around hanging our heads in shame.

Simply cant get my head around this preposterous level of self loathing.

The numbers of people still wishing to come here to study, live or work from abroad would suggest this really isnt the case.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
That's why he appeals to you as he is not Labour either

But thats the rub isnt it.
People like Hilary Benn can cross divides and appeal to people not normally Labour Voters. Thats how you win elections.

Corbyns lot appeals to no one outside the cult minority already standing in the circle, patting each other on the back and whacking each other off
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,252
On the Border
Deutsche Bank......... Should the US reduce its fine? They made BP pay $18.7bn for deepwater horizon. Is a bank going to be treated differently, potentially warranting special consideration because it's a bank? Germanys main bank at that. If the fine stood Deutsche could fail with massive consequences for the Euro. I think it should be left to sink.

Don't believe they are in danger of going under in the immediate future, although revenues are falling due to the CEB negative rates faster than cost cutting. If there is a requirement to raise revenue, then a share option is more probable than a German bailout or going under.
It probably says more about the bullying tactices of the US Treasury than anything else.
 




daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
Ask your Czech buddies if Skoda is German.



It is a product of a subsidiary of an Indian company. What occurs with the Czech car industry is fairly pointless comparison, as to what my Czech 'buddies' feel about Skoda being a SUBSIDIARY OF ANOTHER NATIONS COMPANY. JLR is now a SUBSIDIARY of an Indian company. Thats it..
 




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