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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,101


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
Indeed Brexit is no silver bullet for immigration, that who think that it will are seriously deluded

To me the risk / reward of leave just doesn't add up for Brexit. We risk the economy, the very existence of the UK, not to mention applease the likes of Galloway, Farage, Boris and Gove

Meanwhile Putin would like a Brexit, anything to weaken Europe and increase of chances of a Baltic states land grab

We risk more by staying in
 
















ofco8

Well-known member
May 18, 2007
2,396
Brighton
Indeed Brexit is no silver bullet for immigration, that who think that it will are seriously deluded

To me the risk / reward of leave just doesn't add up for Brexit. We risk the economy, the very existence of the UK, not to mention applease the likes of Galloway, Farage, Boris and Gove

Meanwhile Putin would like a Brexit, anything to weaken Europe and increase of chances of a Baltic states land grab

Then the EU should have engaged in serious renegotiation's. It was that arrogance that turned many into Brexiters
 


dangull

Well-known member
Feb 24, 2013
5,162
If the remainders are right, and a vote for Brexit will not effect immigration much. 300,000 net immigration will keep happening every year on our small island?
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Why buy The Sun if you don't buy into it's viewpoint?

It's not as if you cannot afford a more expensive paper, as you've already told us that you are considerably richer than most of us.

I certainly follow it's financial advice,which consistently out-performs the more expensive options,although I don't expect you to admit it!
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,955
portslade
How can I be expected to believe this when they are funded by anti-EU shills? This fact alone totally and completely negates anything they could possibly say. /Leavemodeon

Yes how dare they say the truth and ruin any remain untruths about how they will deal with it
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I've got my whole life ahead of me, being full of hate won't get me very far

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Don't forget to look left when you cross the road!:rolleyes:
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
If the remainders are right, and a vote for Brexit will not effect immigration much. 300,000 net immigration will keep happening every year on our small island?

The small island which has only 2% of it's area developed? Don't give me the guff about NHS not coping because a lot of them work in the NHS.
Just because 300,000 net arrived last year, doesn't mean 300,000 will arrive every year.
 








Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
How the UK is being asset stripped using EUSSR money.

Well worth a read this one.

"Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.

Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.

Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.

Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.

British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.

Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.

Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.

M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.

Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.

Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.

Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.

Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.

Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.

Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.

ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs

Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.

JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.

UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.

Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.

Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.

The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.

Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.

39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU

The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematical-ly asset-stripped from the UK.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,017
Pattknull med Haksprut
If the remainders are right, and a vote for Brexit will not effect immigration much. 300,000 net immigration will keep happening every year on our small island?

Of the 300,000 you quote, 180,000 are non EU. Given that they are governed by existing migration rules I don't see how that would change.

In relation to the remainder, the problem is how do you set an appropriate figure?

The much vaunted Australian points based system sets the bar so low that practically anyone can move there (take Lloyd Owusu for example).

In 2013 508,000 migrated to Australia, which is far higher than the number coming to the UK, for a country (Oz) with a far smaller population.

Australia now has nearly 1 person in 3 who was born overseas, which seems inconsistent with the views of those who support it's migration policy on the Brexit side of the debate.

Australia Immigration.PNG
 




Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,640
What? You vote has swayed down to that? Blimey

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Its a more valid reason then listening to politicians bicker with each other which a lot of you muppets are doing

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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Dear Marje,
I am a massive ******* but whenever I try to stamp on my worker's rights and make them work lonfer hours for less money some jumped-up foreigh johnnies tell me I can't. What is a ******* to do?


Dear *******,
This is an easy one. Appeal to the xenophobia of your workers and get them to vote out of Europe. Suggest the migrant crisis is linked to it in some vague way. Once they vote out you can do whatever you like to **** them over as they will have no-one to appeal to - problem solved!

Even easier solution-stop running an agency pushing zero hours contracts and minimum wages.Stop bullying your workers because you have the only jobs they are qualified to do,and think it makes you clever.Go and live in Germany,where your type naturally belong.
 


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