[Politics] Brexit

[dsr-burnley]

His reply was all that you deserved for your utterly brainless ramblings.

There are people on this board who can discuss politics. There are others whose attitude is "I am right and you are stupid". If you have nothing to say, then why not say it?

 

[The Clamp]

You have beaten me down by the intelligence of your discussion.

Your argument deserves little more.


But if we must dance..


You’re essentially saying it was okay to have a such a small majority win when it meant we leave but you wouldn’t abide by the same minority win of it meant we rejoin.

You wrote that you see why people feel differently but it was ultimately the right way to go about it.

Without giving any reason.

As I wrote, utter drivel.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

If you have nothing to say, then why not say it?

 

[dsr-burnley]

your own insular echo chamber full of northern mill town thickets.

One thing I despise - even from the great and the good that live in Brighton - is the attitude of "I'm glad I'm not prejudiced like all those northern people". Wouldn't it be better to have one board for sensible discussion and another for random abuse?

Goodbye. I will log off for a few days in hopes that the board calms down and learns how to be tolerant. Tolerance is a good thing, don't you think?

 

[The Clamp]

There are people on this board who can discuss politics. There are others whose attitude is "I am right and you are stupid". If you have nothing to say, then why not say it?

You fall firmly into the latter group.

 

[The Clamp]

Edit; Double entry.

 

[Simster]

There are people on this board who can discuss politics. There are others whose attitude is "I am right and you are stupid". If you have nothing to say, then why not say it?

Your whole premise IS stupid.

Basically, a paper thin majority is fine when it suits you, but we need a 2 thirds majority to change it from now on. Why? No way on earth you'd be campaigning for this based on a 52% remain win in 2016. And nor would Nigel Farage who famously said a 52-48 vote would mean "unfinished business". I trust you about as much as I trust him.

 

[The Clamp]

Brexit isn’t politics in my opinion. It’s much more important than that.

We need to rejoin for our survival.

 

[Simster]

One thing I despise - even from the great and the good that live in Brighton - is the attitude of "I'm glad I'm not prejudiced like all those northern people". Wouldn't it be better to have one board for sensible discussion and another for random abuse?

Goodbye. I will log off for a few days in hopes that the board calms down and learns how to be tolerant. Tolerance is a good thing, don't you think?

You've been tolerated for months despite being out of step with most on here. This region is a rejoin region and this is a massively pro rejoin board.

But I'm sorry, I draw the line when you justify moving the goalposts now that Brexit is being seen by most people for the absolute pile of dogshit that it is. The irony is that if we had a referendum now and it was set to your arbitrary 60-40, there's still a fair chance rejoin would win. But why should that be put in the balance when it would still be a clear majority regardless?

 

[moggy]

Meanwhile in France, maybe some positive news for second home users

Five-year visa plan for second-home owners in France advances

Senator has gone ahead and submitted the idea via an amendment to a forthcoming immigration bill. It would impact all non-EU nationalities

www.connexionfrance.com

 

[Guinness Boy]

The reply you are quoting was that "The next time, if nothing much has altered, you need a more decisive figure". I would say that the dissolving of the EC and its replacement by the EU, a political and unionist body, was a significant alteration.

As a mod I have to be much nicer than Simster, but, honestly, the mental gymnastics needed to get to your original point and this reply are in Nadia Comăneci territory.

"Nothing much has altered"? Since the 2016 referendum the whole planet has been altered by a pandemic and two large scale wars, the country has seen three unelected prime ministers, the latest of whom has less support that Rochdale's away following, a leading Brexiteer Prime Minister has broken the law of the land, Northern Ireland doesn't have a government, Nigel Farage has been de-banked, people's mortgages, food and heating have trebled and still the little rubber boats keep coming at an even greater rate.

What would it take for you? A nuclear bomb?

 

[Baldseagull]

You not only can agree a greater margin of victory, but for the sake of practicalities you have to. An annual referendum to decide whether we want to be in the EU or not, is not going to work. The practicalities of agreeing to join and then backing out and then rejoining just can't work.

The first time you ask the people, you can take a simple majority. The next time, if nothing much has altered, you need a more decisive figure.

I can go with 60% required for a change, as long as you are willing to keep having referendums annually until you get a 60% majority either way, at that point a further referendum only if a new treaty is to be signed or a Government that offers one in their manifesto is elected. I also think a court should decide if the public has been well informed or not about the decisions implications, before anything is enacted on the basis of the result, and that distributors of deliberate disinformation be punished.
What is likely to happen in my opinion is that the next Government decides to align more closely with Europe, and the one after that even more, and so on, and we end up looking like members, paying more in than members but don't get to elect MEP's or have a member on the council.

 

[Lever]

6½ years old, contemporary stuff!

You do know when the Brexit referendum was, don't you?

Pleased to note you are still contributing, your comments are so entertaining in their vacuity.....

 

[Lever]

My view is simply that a referendum in 2007 over Lisbon, before Farage and his wealthy backers got really going in their sh1t stirring over (in effect) Poles and Romanians in small towns, would’ve killed that movement. It would not have been a leave EU vote. Ireland did it.

So very worthwhile.

Meaning the Brexit vote would never have occurred. Politicians of all creeds (bar Corbyn, Bone and Farage) could simply say the British have voted. Opportunists such as Boris would have had no viable movement to join.

I agree.
As a general rule though, a referendum is a horribly blunt instrument introduced only when the leadership is convinced it will prevail (how badly mistaken was Cameron on that!)

 

[Greg Bobkin]

One thing I despise - even from the great and the good that live in Brighton - is the attitude of "I'm glad I'm not prejudiced like all those northern people". Wouldn't it be better to have one board for sensible discussion and another for random abuse?

Goodbye. I will log off for a few days in hopes that the board calms down and learns how to be tolerant. Tolerance is a good thing, don't you think?

What a facking SNOWFLAKE!

 

[AK74]

"Nothing much has altered"? Since the 2016 referendum the whole planet has been altered by a pandemic and two large scale wars, the country has seen three unelected prime ministers, the latest of whom has less support that Rochdale's away following, a leading Brexiteer Prime Minister has broken the law of the land, Northern Ireland doesn't have a government, Nigel Farage has been de-banked, people's mortgages, food and heating have trebled and still the little rubber boats keep coming at an even greater rate.

All right, but apart from that...

 

[Lever]

dsr- Burnley 'Tolerance is a good thing don't you think'?

How would you categorise a comment like that?

 

[The Clamp]

As a mod I have to be much nicer than Simster, but, honestly, the mental gymnastics needed to get to your original point and this reply are in Nadia Comăneci territory.

"Nothing much has altered"? Since the 2016 referendum the whole planet has been altered by a pandemic and two large scale wars, the country has seen three unelected prime ministers, the latest of whom has less support that Rochdale's away following, a leading Brexiteer Prime Minister has broken the law of the land, Northern Ireland doesn't have a government, Nigel Farage has been de-banked, people's mortgages, food and heating have trebled and still the little rubber boats keep coming at an even greater rate.

What would it take for you? A nuclear bomb?

He’s apparently logged off now for a few days because we aren’t making sensible arguments.

Usual nonsense we get when their arguments get picked apart.

 

[The Clamp]

One thing I despise - even from the great and the good that live in Brighton - is the attitude of "I'm glad I'm not prejudiced like all those northern people". Wouldn't it be better to have one board for sensible discussion and another for random abuse?

Goodbye. I will log off for a few days in hopes that the board calms down and learns how to be tolerant. Tolerance is a good thing, don't you think?

Don’t let the door hit you in the vagina on the way out.

 

[Guinness Boy]

He’s apparently logged off now for a few days because we aren’t making sensible arguments.

Usual nonsense we get when their arguments get picked apart.

Very similar to someone who made over 1600 posts on this thread now ignoring it.