None of the remain arguments make much sense either though!
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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None of the remain arguments make much sense either though!
- Apr 13, 2015
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melias shoes
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What? So that's yor reason for staying in. You really think they would look after us.
- Apr 13, 2015
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Is Merkel letting you have a vote on Britain's membership then?.. How does that work then... you live permanently in the Fatherland.... how can you be registered office vote?
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No it is not. The EU is not about a shared currency. If you think that then you have not grasped the issue properly. We are talking about an economy that is in all our interests.
To the contrary, [MENTION=25549]5ways[/MENTION] and [MENTION=225]Hamilton[/MENTION] have presented some very good arguments.
That's a weak point and the argument is about far more than the bloody economy. Your inference that those that want self determination for their country constitute people who are 'unable to grasp the issue' sums you up I feel.
jgmcdee
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- Mar 25, 2012
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If by "you" you mean the electorate of the EU then you choose each country's government and they choose the commissioners. If you don't like the way that your country chooses your commissioner feel free to agitate to change it, because it's purely up to your country's government as to how they select their member.
Separately, the MEPs that you voted for can remove the entire commission if they so desire.
Lots of us don't think so, just keep going round and round with the same diatribe to be honest.
It works exactly the same as it did when I lived in the UK albeit I post my ballot paper instead of turn up at Hove Town Hall. I can also vote in local elections here.
I think that's part of the issue for the whole debate. It's not simplistic. I think it's good for politics if it makes us think really deeply about the issues and argue them through.
Not a good system though is it? None of us can vote on the other members MEP's can we? So we have a tiny voice in a stitched up club. Wonderful.
That is a rather ridiculous assumption. I was suggesting that an individual poster had not grasped the issue and you have twisted it to suggest that I am saying a whole group of people have not grasped the issue. Plain wrong. It's that sort of twisted logic that doesn't help the argument.
That I agree with you on.
jgmcdee
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If there were an obvious way to go then we wouldn't have all this debate and a referendum. And although people keep asking for clear and objective facts on both sides the reality is that there are very few of them due to the complexity of the situation.
Twisted it? Really?
Yes. You have suggested that I have said all of the leave camp have failed to grasp the issue when my response was aimed at one poster for one view that he/she expressed. You've therefore misrepresented my post. I assume you can admit that?
brightn'ove
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What? So that's yor reason for staying in. You really think they would look after us.
No ... I listed my reasons. I was just replying to his exaggeration with exaggeration of my own.
brightn'ove
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It is for this reason there shouldn't even be a referendum on this, idiots like us are not qualified to make such a ridiculously complex decision.
jgmcdee
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And how much of a vote do you have on the other MPs outside of your own constituency?
So much of the "EU is undemocratic" spiel comes down to exactly what you wrote above: you only have as much say as any other EU citizen, and you don't like it.