[Politics] Brexit

[nicko31]

Famous lefty rag the Telegraph reporting the Paris Stock Exchange has overtaken London as Europes largest stock market

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The French stock market is now worth $2.823trn, while its UK counterpart is worth $2.821trn.

Back in 2016, UK stocks were collectively $1.5trn more valuable than the French market. Little wonder living standards are set to decline at a record rate

 

[Silverhatch]

What about any tradesmen on here? How’s your daily rate post Brexit?

 

[sparkie]

What about any tradesmen on here? How’s your daily rate post Brexit?

Wasn't Brexit meant to make it higher after all the Europeans were sent away ?

 

[Silverhatch]

Wasn't Brexit meant to make it higher after all the Europeans were sent away ?

That’s why I asked the (genuine) question.

 

[Simster]

What about any tradesmen on here? How’s your daily rate post Brexit?

We used a decent builder and a guy specialising in drive ways this year. They both said the same thing - lots of pent up demand immediately after COVID meant full order books, but by this summer they both knew people in their trades who were struggling to get any work at all. Also, the cost of materials was making things hard because they'd quote and then by the time they got round to doing the work, the prices had shot up.

 

[GT49er]

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I'll maybe pop back in six months or so to see if it's still working!

 

[Pretty Plnk Fairy]

Typical snowflakes remoanerating about the economy its not important as its all just numbers and stuff the important thing is that we have are country and soveriegnty back and thats all that matters as its real

 

[abc]

Typical snowflakes remoanerating about the economy its not important as its all just numbers and stuff the important thing is that we have are country and soveriegnty back and thats all that matters as its real

Don’t forget we have blue passports now too

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

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I'll maybe pop back in six months or so to see if it's still working!

Brexit is going well...
Brexit is going well...
Brexit is going well....

 

[Randy McNob]

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I think even mentioning the word Brexit would alienate (what is sadly still a not insignificant and disproportionately noisy) part of the electorate. I suspect that we will negotiate a 'special' customs union (which will look exactly like the EU one) but will be 'a British customs union' to recognise the fact that we are British. We will then gradually put back all of the sensible regulations, rules and processes to allow business to continue and maybe, just maybe, actually grow the economy

Unfortunately as you rightly point out, and is abundantly clear to anyone who understands the very basics of what has happened over the last 6 years, we'll never get anywhere close to the brilliant deal British politicians of all colours had managed to negotiate over the last 40 years, but let's keep that to ourselves because after all, It's in everybody's interests to 'move forward'

But Jeremy Hunt is going to use his “Brexit freedoms” to turn us in to the next Silicon Valley!!!!

if anybody was planning on creating the next Silicon Valley, is there any reason why it couldn’t be done within the EU?

it does seem to me that more and more senior economists and senior financial figures are being Honest about the real damage that Brexit has done to our economy, including the Governor Of the Bank of England and Michael Saunders, who was part of the interest rate setting group at the Bank of England. They’re also being honest about the damage done to our international reputation by the idiot Truss and her lapdog Kwarteng………… but then we’ve had enough of experts, haven’t we??

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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Record number of voters now think Brexit was a bad idea

Just a third of Brits think Brexit was a good idea.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[The Merry Prankster]

The problem is that those who Starmer is struggling to convince (those on the left of the party) and those who come out to vote in numbers (old people) are still more likely to be pro-Brexit. He risks (further) alienating both by the merest suggestion that it was the wrong thing to do.

I don't think Starmer is making any attempt to convince the left of his party. Their ways parted some time ago.

 

[Wokeworrier]

History repeating itself Randy, many voters regretted their decision to stay in the European Community a few years after the 1975 referendum when difficult times hit the country.

Funny to think if social media had been around back then ... I wonder if any eurosceptics would be bothered/sad enough, to spend a vast amount of time berating pro EC voters for being gullible morons believing in European Community sunny uplands.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/polling-history-40-years-british-views-or-out-europe

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

History repeating itself Randy, many voters regretted their decision to stay in the European Community a few years after the 1975 referendum when difficult times hit the country.

Funny to think if social media had been around back then ... I wonder if any eurosceptics would be bothered/sad enough, to spend a vast amount of time berating pro EC voters for being gullible morons believing in European Community sunny uplands.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/polling-history-40-years-british-views-or-out-europe

From your article. Ooops...

"Gallup also asked a follow-up question: how would people vote if the government negotiated new terms for UK membership and said that they thought it was in Britain’s interests to stay in? In that case, it turned out that 50% would vote to stay and only 22% to leave – an 18% swing.

And that, of course, is what happened. In March 1975, the renegotiation was completed, parliament endorsed it and all the major party leaders recommended that Britain should stay in. In June, the voters opted by 67% to 33% to do so."

We then stopped being the poor man of Europe. We've now left and are becoming the poor man of Europe. Like you say, history repeating.

 

[dsr-burnley]

From your article. Ooops...

"Gallup also asked a follow-up question: how would people vote if the government negotiated new terms for UK membership and said that they thought it was in Britain’s interests to stay in? In that case, it turned out that 50% would vote to stay and only 22% to leave – an 18% swing.

And that, of course, is what happened. In March 1975, the renegotiation was completed, parliament endorsed it and all the major party leaders recommended that Britain should stay in. In June, the voters opted by 67% to 33% to do so."

We then stopped being the poor man of Europe. We've now left and are becoming the poor man of Europe. Like you say, history repeating.

Britain joined the EEC in January 1973, the big IMF bailout was in December 1976, the winter of discontent was in 1978-79. We didn't stop being the "poor man of Europe" as a result of being in the EEC.

 

[Wokeworrier]

From your article. Ooops...

"Gallup also asked a follow-up question: how would people vote if the government negotiated new terms for UK membership and said that they thought it was in Britain’s interests to stay in? In that case, it turned out that 50% would vote to stay and only 22% to leave – an 18% swing.

And that, of course, is what happened. In March 1975, the renegotiation was completed, parliament endorsed it and all the major party leaders recommended that Britain should stay in. In June, the voters opted by 67% to 33% to do so."

We then stopped being the poor man of Europe. We've now left and are becoming the poor man of Europe. Like you say,

From your article. Ooops...

"Gallup also asked a follow-up question: how would people vote if the government negotiated new terms for UK membership and said that they thought it was in Britain’s interests to stay in? In that case, it turned out that 50% would vote to stay and only 22% to leave – an 18% swing.

And that, of course, is what happened. In March 1975, the renegotiation was completed, parliament endorsed it and all the major party leaders recommended that Britain should stay in. In June, the voters opted by 67% to 33% to do so."

We then stopped being the poor man of Europe. We've now left and are becoming the poor man of Europe. Like you say, history repeating.

What has that got to do with the point, polls showing views drastically change a few years after a referendum result?

Oops..

 

[Randy McNob]

Britain joined the EEC in January 1973, the big IMF bailout was in December 1976, the winter of discontent was in 1978-79. We didn't stop being the "poor man of Europe" as a result of being in the EEC.

there was the 'golden era' 25 year period from just after pulling out of the ERM up to the Brexit vote (1992-2016) where we had continuous growth and our economy benefitted by many billions due to having a Germany++ deal. EU Membership benefitted our economy by around 8.6% GDP, now we can enjoy our economy contracting 4% PA instead. That's ignoring the 200bn we threw down the toilet during the transition period due to the economic uncertainty

EU Membership: A Cost-Benefit Analysis for the UK

www.cairn.info

 

[nicko31]

there was the 'golden era' 25 year period from just after pulling out of the ERM up to the Brexit vote (1992-2016) where we had continuous growth and our economy benefitted by many billions due to having a Germany++ deal. EU Membership benefitted our economy by around 8.6% GDP, now we can enjoy our economy contracting 4% PA instead. That's ignoring the 200bn we threw down the toilet during the transition period due to the economic uncertainty

EU Membership: A Cost-Benefit Analysis for the UK

www.cairn.info

Gonna make a prediction.

Though hard to believe today, in the end we will join the Single Market and when the Tories see it as an issue worth exploiting politically it will be them that will do it.

Its what they do...

 

[CHAPPERS]

Jeremy Hunt says axing nom-dom status would be ‘wrong thing’ for UK

Chancellor defends keeping tax status as he warns of ‘challenging times’ and suggests Brexit has affected economy

www.theguardian.com

While Hunt supported remain in the 2016 EU referendum and has vowed to make a success of Brexit, he appeared to suggest it had seriously affected the UK economy.

Asked if rejoining the single market would boost growth, he said: “I think having unfettered trade with our neighbours and countries all over the world is very beneficial to growth.”

Hunt insisted he had “great confidence that over the years ahead 1) we will find outside the single market we are able to remove the vast majority of the trade barriers that exist between us and the EU”, but cautioned: “It will take time.”

He ruled out Britain rejoining the single market, saying it “would be against what people were voting for when they supported Brexit, 2) which was to have control of our borders” and said there would be “ 3) other ways that will more than compensate for those advantages”.

1) Or just come clean and rejoin the single market to end this f***ing madness? Anyone? What in the f*** am I missing?

2) Borders? That's not worked.

3) Such as what exactly? These mythical 'other ways' don't exist.

Another Twat.