[Politics] Brexit

[Simster]

What ever it is it'll be a drop in the ocean to Sainsbury's and if it doesn't work out they'll walk away without noticing any change.
Unlike Billy Goit-Alone, who's business will collapse if Sainsbury's move elsewhere because it's more convenient.

Indeed. He hasn't got a clue, which is why he ignores all my posts as he has no answer.

 

[A1X]

What are you selling to Sainsbury's then?

Looking forward to complaints next week when Sainsburys jack the prices up then bar him from the shop because he doesn't want to pay them.

 

[Stat Brother]

Is this being policed?

You can see why the EU are so concerned about Ireland, the more time passes, the more time the UK will be considered a food biosecurity threat to the EU

The sad fact is our farmers we will driven out of business by slurry from the rest of world, places where they do what they like.

Thank you Lizz Truss

Would those be the same farmers who owned all hedgerow with 'Vote Leave' signs every 200 yards?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Is this being policed?

You can see why the EU are so concerned about Ireland, the more time passes, the more time the UK will be considered a food biosecurity threat to the EU

The sad fact is our farmers we will driven out of business by slurry from the rest of world, places where they do what they like.

Thank you Lizz Truss

I've heard of people having sandwiches confiscated but we haven't had any problems. There again we set off at 3am to get through the Tunnel at 5, and cruise down to the Vendee arriving mid afternoon. Nice and leisurely/

We still have a cool box in the boot, (connected to our lighter) to bring home pate brie and other delicacies.

 

[Simster]

Would those be the same farmers who owned all hedgerow with 'Vote Leave' signs every 200 yards?

To be fair to farmers, they voted leave in the same proportion as the rest of the country. It's just that they've been f**ked harder than the average Joe.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Would those be the same farmers who owned all hedgerow with 'Vote Leave' signs every 200 yards?

Farmers voted 52/48 the same way as the country was split despite the NFU advising them to vote Remain. Don't forget quite a lot of landowners are Tories.

 

[rogersix]

Certainly I didn't expect the EU to be so aggressive in defending the new rights that Brexit has given them. for example, with this dover thing, I don't see any reason why they need to be quite so slavish to the rules. The main effect of the new rules is that Britons can only spend 90 days in the EU on holiday - but is this particular issue important enough that they need all this rigmarole? How many people do they hope to stop from having 4 month holidays to make it worthwhile?

Similarly, the free trade issue. To me, but then I am a free trader, I thought it obvious that the EU would want free trade as being mutually beneficial. They don't - they want free trade with certain advantages. Teresa May was hopelessly incompetent on that negotiation, especially with her utter disregard for the Good Friday agreement in Northern Ireland. I can't work out whether Johnson salvaged something from the wreckage, or whether he did no good at all. But the current system is a shambles and we might as well withdraw altogether and trade under WTO rules rather than remain partly in thrall to the EU. I've never been convinced, anyway, that our huge balance of trade deficit with the EU is a good thing to be retained at all costs.

Why are the French authorities being authoritative?? Is that your question?

A better one would be, "why did we vote for this?"

 

[Stat Brother]

To be fair to farmers, they voted leave in the same proportion as the rest of the country. It's just that they've been f**ked harder than the average Joe.

It must just have been the farmer(s) of West Sussex who really wanted out.


I'm also looking forward to the BBC returning to the Cornish fisheries.
I seem to remember one lone voice saying 'careful what you wish for', while to a man the rest were desperate to take back control.

'Boris will look after us'.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I don't know the size of Sainsbury's finances compared with the size of mine, but I;ll be going there tonight to make a free trade transaction that will have mutual benefit. Just because one party is smaller than the other doesn't mean that a deal can't be good for both parties.

The deal will have conditions which have to be met on both sides of the transaction.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It must just have been the farmer(s) of West Sussex who really wanted out.


I'm also looking forward to the BBC returning to the Cornish fisheries.
I seem to remember one lone voice saying 'careful what you wish for', while to a man the rest were desperate to take back control.

'Boris will look after us'.

They probably have the same expression as the people that transferred their £10k to a bank account in Nigeria and are awaiting for their £10m inheritance...

 

[WATFORD zero]

Why does this basic shite still need explaining to people?


Sure today it seems to be one particular poster who hasn't got a fudging clue, but tomorrow it'll be another.


The Remain Campaign was absolutely piss poor.


To this day and going forward so many people still haven't got a clue what they voted for, and still think they can bend the world (EU) to conform to us.


Beggars belief.

It is incredible that after all that was said and written about it prior to the referendum, all the detail of the various negotiations following the referendum, the full details of the actual Brexit deal being published, and the ever increasing evidence of the effects of that Brexit deal, that even now there is still this level of ignorance about what has actually happened.

Maybe someone had their fingers in their ears shouting 'project fear' throughout the whole of the last 6 and a half years.

But on the bright side, at least the complete lack of understanding of what has happened doesn't seem to have effected their 'opinion'

 

[Stat Brother]

It is incredible that after all that was said and written about it prior to the referendum, all the detail of the various negotiations following the referendum, the full details of the actual Brexit deal being published, and the ever increasing evidence of the effects of that Brexit deal, that even now there is still this level of ignorance about what has actually happened.

Maybe someone had their fingers in their ears shouting 'project fear' throughout the whole of the last 6 and a half years.

But on the bright side, at least the complete lack of understanding of what has happened doesn't seem to have effected their 'opinion'

The head honcho is a proven liar and yet his nonsense is still spouted as fact.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It is incredible that after all that was said and written about it prior to the referendum, all the detail of the various negotiations following the referendum, the full details of the actual Brexit deal being published, and the ever increasing evidence of the effects of that Brexit deal, that even now there is still this level of ignorance about what has actually happened.

Maybe someone had their fingers in their ears shouting 'project fear' throughout the whole of the last 6 and a half years.

But on the bright side, at least the complete lack of understanding of what has happened doesn't seem to have effected their 'opinion'

You can holiday in Portugal FFS, what more do you want!!??

 

[Westdene Seagull]

If your first paragraph is a wind-up, then you've got a thumbs up from me!

But in case it isn't, freedom of movement has ceased both ways. Why did you vote for taking back control of our borders, but are then indignant when you discover the EU already does the same thing?
Isn't that your fault for not realising it? Or is it someone else's fault?

Here is a list of checks the French border control now have to do, as well as stamping each passport:

(taken from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/62294901)

checking the identity page
checking the traveller hasn't been to the EU for more than 90 days in the last 180 days
checking if you have at least 3 months left on your passport
checking that your passport is issued less than 10 years before the date you enter the country
checking the traveller has a return ticket
checking proof of insurance for your trip
asking whether the traveller has enough money to stay
Checking each person can take up to a minute, rather than a few seconds, transport expert Simon Calder told BBC Breakfast.

Your second paragraph is for another discussion. Let's stay focused on the chaos at Dover.

Edit - I gave you a thumbs up for answering. Thank you.

Pretty sure the BBC aren't correct on the two highlighted lines - or if they are the French aren't bothering. I say that as I've been to France three times this year and not been asked to prove either of these two points.

 

[A1X]

We still have a cool box in the boot, (connected to our lighter) to bring home pate brie and other delicacies.

Importing cheese, are you?

 

[cunning fergus]

I refer you to my previous comment.

No amount of writing about a Portuguese airport will make it relevant to the port of Dover. Different country, different clientele, different volumes, different mode of transport, different operation of the border, different country in which the physical border is in, different implementation of the rules, different means of passenger throughput (walking vs. driving). The list goes on.

If people want to got to France from Dover, and accept all that entails then that’s their call…….there are other routes to France as there are other countries to holiday in.

If you go to Thailand you may get malaria, so you will need to get a malaria jab. If you don’t want to get a jab or risk malaria then don’t go to Thailand, you should go to a country which has a zero malaria risk.

If you go to France via Dover in the peak holiday season theres a risk the French may play silly buggers at the border check. If you don’t want to risk delays at Dover, go from a different port, or go to a country which doesn’t play silly buggers at the border…….like Portugal.

I appreciate this is difficult for you to digest, however it is quite simple.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Importing cheese, are you?

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For my personal use only m'lud.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If people want to got to France from Dover, and accept all that entails then that’s their call…….there are other routes to France as there are other countries to holiday in.

If you go to Thailand you may get malaria, so you will need to get a malaria jab. If you don’t want to get a jab or risk malaria then don’t go to Thailand, you should go to a country which has a zero malaria risk.

If you go to France via Dover in the peak holiday season theres a risk the French may play silly buggers at the border check. If you don’t want to risk delays at Dover, go from a different port, or go to a country which doesn’t play silly buggers at the border…….like Portugal.

I appreciate this is difficult for you to digest, however it is quite simple.

The French aren't playing silly buggers or do you think the Spanish are too?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ists-able-prove-spend-85-day-enter-Spain.html


UK Foreign Office guidelines states: 'Border guards will use passport stamps to check you're complying with the 90-day visa-free limit for short stays in the Schengen area. If relevant entry or exit stamps are not in your passport, border guards will presume that you have overstayed your visa-free limit.'

The same €100 per-day requirement also applies to people applying for Schengen visas from Spain. The daily required means on subsistence for Schengen visa applicants differs between each EU and Schengen country.

In Belgium, for example, Schengen visa applicants must prove they have €95 pet day if they are staying in a hotel, and at least €45 if staying at cheaper accommodation.

In France, the minimum daily amount is €120 if the arriving tourist has no proof of pre-paid accommodation. If the accommodation has been prepaid, that amount drops to €65 per day.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

To be fair to farmers, they voted leave in the same proportion as the rest of the country. It's just that they've been f**ked harder than the average Joe.

Thing is that, were the referendum about repatriation of 'West Indians', and people of 'West Indian' origin voted in favour of repatriation in the same ratio as the other identifiable subpopulations of citizen, it would be completely bizarre.

Farmers voting to have their EU subsidies removed, etc etc., was delusional.

 

[cunning fergus]

It seems to have the 4th highest number of infringements yet by far the highest population. Per capita, it is WAY down - maybe even half way or lower.

Is the bullshit something you've learnt from cosying up with your new chums, the Tory Brexiteers, or were you a complete bullshitter before 2016?

Tut tut…..this bullshit is directly from the EU, over 800 infringements they are investigating of which Germany is at the top table.

I couldn’t care less it’s up to the EU member states to decide what they want to spend their money on, however capitalism will out, and with Germany now in trade deficit territory I can’t see them making exports to the U.K. more difficult.

You think they will…..fine.