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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
Nob, Lever and Nico “trolls” now that’s not very nice, wise yes, but trolls?


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Relevance?

Once again writing about a named poster on here rather than to them?

What is your comment about? Do you know?
 
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WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
27,750
Nob, Lever and Nico “trolls” now that’s not very nice, wise yes, but trolls?

And on the actual subject of the thread, it appears you have missed/ignored/run away from this post on the subject (Brexit) completely. And on more than one occasion

And while you're on the Brexit thread, do you remember that I explained the Northern Ireland Protocol situation to you in extremely simple terms that you seemed to understand ?
Mmm tricky, I’ll give it some more thought, thank you for your considered answers
It's just that I wondered in the years in between, whether you had managed to formulate a view on the Northern Ireland Protocol ?

To be absolutely honest, I don't hold out a lot of hope that you have the intellectual capacity for an answer, and I would ask your friends, but Ppf thinks it's already been implemented and JCFG is out of here quicker that Usain Bolt with a rocket up his arse every time it gets mentioned. Between you and me, I don't think either of them understand any aspect of it either as they always try childish whataboutism and silly trolling responses instead of a coherent answer.

But I'll bet you can prove me wrong and come up with a sensible response on the subject of the thread
Of course, if you're incapable of a sensible response, don't worry. I certainly wouldn't want you to look stupid :angel:
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
I don't think comes down to choice but whether someone needed to renew it.

Is it optional? that would be great !

A) Burgendy colour - allows free unrestricted access to 27 other countries throughout Europe, special lanes at all entry points for easy access
B) Blue colour - 1 country, no special access lanes, queue up with everyone else in the slow "other passports lane"

Exactly , a independent nation with its own identity

No more mixing with the riff raff

🇬🇧

Regards
DF
 




Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
Even the Leave-lobbying Telegraph is beginning to seriously question this disastrous Brexit! Slow, but they are getting there.... unlike the increasingly bereft Brexit-supporters on here!

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure
It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

BEN MARLOW
CHIEF CITY COMMENTATOR
4 January 2022 • 4:00pm
Ben Marlow
The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a New Year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country - both Brexiteers and Remainers - that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to Number 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunneled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government's own admission neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond Britain’s reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved worryingly elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative, and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum - which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s New Year message - has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos MORI poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to consider whether they will ever get what they wanted.
 
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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Even the prime Leave-lobbying Telegraph is beginning to seriously question this disastrous Brexit! Slow, but they are getting there.... unlike the increasingly bereft Brexit-supporters on here!

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure
It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

BEN MARLOW
CHIEF CITY COMMENTATOR
4 January 2022 • 4:00pm
Ben Marlow
The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a New Year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country - both Brexiteers and Remainers - that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to Number 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunneled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government's own admission neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond Britain’s reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved worryingly elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative, and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum - which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s New Year message - has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos MORI poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to consider whether they will ever get what they wanted.

Hilarious article, some great lines in there...." Burst free from the shackles of Brussels " "The benefits of Brexit have so far proved worryingly elusive "

... I think it will be this year, when after a fair bit of head scratching, the penny drops that there are no benefits from Brexit.. But, most of us already knew that anyway.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Even the Leave-lobbying Telegraph is beginning to seriously question this disastrous Brexit! Slow, but they are getting there.... unlike the increasingly bereft Brexit-supporters on here!

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure
It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

BEN MARLOW
CHIEF CITY COMMENTATOR
4 January 2022 • 4:00pm
Ben Marlow
The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a New Year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country - both Brexiteers and Remainers - that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to Number 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunneled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government's own admission neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond Britain’s reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved worryingly elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative, and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum - which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s New Year message - has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos MORI poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to consider whether they will ever get what they wanted.
"Yet to live up to its billing" ?

Really ? Lol.

That's a humongous understatement.

They need to call a spade a spade. It's a total unmitigated disaster.

Lol.
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,571
Gods country fortnightly
Even the Leave-lobbying Telegraph is beginning to seriously question this disastrous Brexit! Slow, but they are getting there.... unlike the increasingly bereft Brexit-supporters on here!

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure
It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

BEN MARLOW
CHIEF CITY COMMENTATOR
4 January 2022 • 4:00pm
Ben Marlow
The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a New Year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country - both Brexiteers and Remainers - that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to Number 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunneled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government's own admission neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond Britain’s reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved worryingly elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative, and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum - which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s New Year message - has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos MORI poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to consider whether they will ever get what they wanted.

Can one of the NSC leave voting Einsteins explain....

further and faster

What does that mean?

What opportunities?

Where?

How much?

I need educating....
 




Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
"Yet to live up to its billing" ?

Really ? Lol.

That's a humongous understatement.

They need to call a spade a spade. It's a total unmitigated disaster.

Lol.

What... and acknowledge to nearly half the voters their false, vacuous claims about Brexit? That's not going to happen!
 
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WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,750
Even the Leave-lobbying Telegraph is beginning to seriously question this disastrous Brexit! Slow, but they are getting there.... unlike the increasingly bereft Brexit-supporters on here!

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure
It's been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

BEN MARLOW
CHIEF CITY COMMENTATOR
4 January 2022 • 4:00pm
Ben Marlow
The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a New Year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country - both Brexiteers and Remainers - that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to Number 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunneled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government's own admission neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond Britain’s reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved worryingly elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative, and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum - which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s New Year message - has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos MORI poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to consider whether they will ever get what they wanted.

I love the whole idea that Brexit, having failed on all it's promises, is somehow going to bring some sort of benefit in the future :facepalm:

All those who have benefitted from Brexit have long gone and are onto their next quick buck using their contacts to be 'winners' on various Covid contracts and elsewhere.

It's only going to get worse, as Brexit gradually gets 'done' step by painful step, over the next few years, and the real impact comes through. All that's left now are the both types of losers, those who know they've been stitched up and lost, and those for whom the penny remarkably, given all the evidence to the contrary, still has to drop :dunce:
 


Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
I love the whole idea that Brexit, having failed on all it's promises, is somehow going to bring some sort of benefit in the future :facepalm:

All those who have benefitted from Brexit have long gone and are onto their next quick buck using their contacts to be 'winners' on various Covid contracts and elsewhere.

It's only going to get worse, as Brexit gradually gets 'done' step by painful step, over the next few years, and the real impact comes through. All that's left now are the both types of losers, those who know they've been stitched up and lost, and those for whom the penny remarkably, given all the evidence to the contrary, still has to drop :dunce:


I think that's called going down with the shit, isn't it?
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,090
Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats.]

From the Guardian….

“Officials at the commission said there was nothing that had prevented the crown stamp being on pint glasses, as long as the CE mark was also visible.

A spokesperson said: “EU law does not prevent markings from being placed on products, so long as it does not overlap or be confused with the CE mark.” “
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,750
From the Guardian….

“Officials at the commission said there was nothing that had prevented the crown stamp being on pint glasses, as long as the CE mark was also visible.

A spokesperson said: “EU law does not prevent markings from being placed on products, so long as it does not overlap or be confused with the CE mark.” “

That's absolutely ridiculous. Shirley Johnson doesn't really believe that Brexit supporters are that naïve ???

*edit*

I changed it from stupid to naïve so as not to be insulting (and I know how delicate some of the woke snowflakes on here are :wink:)
 
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Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,443
From the Guardian….

“Officials at the commission said there was nothing that had prevented the crown stamp being on pint glasses, as long as the CE mark was also visible.

A spokesperson said: “EU law does not prevent markings from being placed on products, so long as it does not overlap or be confused with the CE mark.” “

Are you saying that Johnson has misled us? Really?
 


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A1X

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