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[Politics] Brexit
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bluenitsuj
Listen to me!!!
Brilliant news. Well done Boris.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
You would think they would be happier considering most have been talking up a no-deal disaster scenario for 3 years ... especially grim day for Watford Z who has been hoping for a no-deal outcome. Thoughts and prayers to them all at this difficult time
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Go and raise a glass of the old boy's beer that you drink, to Boris.
This is a positive thread that all should be happy with.
banjo
GOSBTS
You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,313
Fair play to BJ for delivering the result of the democratically-held referendum. Anything else would have undermined democracy in this country. No matter what might follow, democracy has finally run its course 
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
- 12,323
A fantastic result, a free trade deal with no tariffs.
Control of our own laws.
Freedom of movement gone.
Ability to strike deals with other countries world wide.
No European Court of Justice involvement.
Lovely stuff.
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Control of our own laws.
Freedom of movement gone.
Ability to strike deals with other countries world wide.
No European Court of Justice involvement.
Lovely stuff.
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Soton Seagull
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Better than nothing I suppose. Still an astonishing exercise in economic self harm. Hard Brxit delivered, a degree of 'splendid' isolation returns; hope it works out better than last time.
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
- 12,323
He adds that lawyers will be able to practice around the EU.
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Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,262
1. You can't get more frictionless than the Single Market.
2. Longer check-in times when travelling to/from the EU.
3. Driving / pet/ insurance bollocks.
4. A mountain of paperwork and bureaucracy.
5. United Kingdom at risk of break-up.
6. 4 and a half years wasted as we go backwards.
2. Longer check-in times when travelling to/from the EU.
3. Driving / pet/ insurance bollocks.
4. A mountain of paperwork and bureaucracy.
5. United Kingdom at risk of break-up.
6. 4 and a half years wasted as we go backwards.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Despite this being exactly what they voted for they don't seem too enamoured with the deal - https://twitter.com/fishingforleave
MattBackHome
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 11,873
It's better than no deal I'll give him that.
But he's been bent over and absolutely taken a proper bratwurst up the arse.
But he's been bent over and absolutely taken a proper bratwurst up the arse.
Lower West Stander
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And the NHS will get all that extra money now
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,313
Wonder if this deal is better or worse or pretty much the same as the May Deal? Has the deal changed much or has parliament just been largely cleared of MPs who were only ever absolutely clear about what they DIDN'T want? Which was just about any deal and every deal
And 7. We’ll rejoin Europe in 20 years once the younger generation are in power.
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from https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/15/boris-johnson-pandemic-britain-christmas-covid
Johnson’s technique for dealing with problems is to let them run out of control, building to a point of sufficient crisis that delay is no longer viable. That way the choice becomes perversely easier because there are fewer options left. Wait long enough and there might be only one.
That is how he has dealt with Brexit. He imagines that brinkmanship is a negotiating strategy to wring concessions out of Brussels, but in reality it is just a way to simplify the decision by eliminating options that needed time to develop. He lets procrastination do the heavy lifting. He can then tell himself (and his audience) that the final outcome, while not perfect, is the best available solution. And maybe it is. But only because it is so late in the day and all the better solutions have long since expired.
It is a chaotic way to run anything: leaving it all to the last minute, relying on a critical mass of external pressure to get motivated. As a way of governing in a pandemic it is disastrous because there is no slack time between deadlines. The moment to make the tough choices is always now. The rate at which good options decay is exponential. The virus thrives on indecision. Johnson’s method is effective for one thing, though: it guarantees a sustained pitch of political drama, with the figure of the prime minister lit centre stage. It forces the nation to hang on his word, waiting for him to act, while the consequences of his inaction play out. That bathes him in an aura of power, but it is not leadership.
Rafael Behr is a Guardian columnist
Johnson’s technique for dealing with problems is to let them run out of control, building to a point of sufficient crisis that delay is no longer viable. That way the choice becomes perversely easier because there are fewer options left. Wait long enough and there might be only one.
That is how he has dealt with Brexit. He imagines that brinkmanship is a negotiating strategy to wring concessions out of Brussels, but in reality it is just a way to simplify the decision by eliminating options that needed time to develop. He lets procrastination do the heavy lifting. He can then tell himself (and his audience) that the final outcome, while not perfect, is the best available solution. And maybe it is. But only because it is so late in the day and all the better solutions have long since expired.
It is a chaotic way to run anything: leaving it all to the last minute, relying on a critical mass of external pressure to get motivated. As a way of governing in a pandemic it is disastrous because there is no slack time between deadlines. The moment to make the tough choices is always now. The rate at which good options decay is exponential. The virus thrives on indecision. Johnson’s method is effective for one thing, though: it guarantees a sustained pitch of political drama, with the figure of the prime minister lit centre stage. It forces the nation to hang on his word, waiting for him to act, while the consequences of his inaction play out. That bathes him in an aura of power, but it is not leadership.
Rafael Behr is a Guardian columnist