[Politics] Brexit

[daveinprague]

Blimey
People continue to be active on NSC but dont want to engage in this thread......wow
Given how needy you are i am not surprised this would miff you off.

I have no doubt you are monitoring their activity though and will give us an update some time in the future .
Its what sad little men do after all.

Ps little man. Brexit and ending our membership is wonderful, I would vote to end membership tomorrow and the day after and every day after that.....again and again and again. You pretending amongst yourself and your circle jerk community that leavers think it’s a disaster and hence why there is “absence” on this thread is laughable………and creepy as hell, as its just more of you seeking attention.

Quick and genuine question for the remain folk, of the 52% who voted leave, what percentage do you think put their cross on the paper with the only desire being separation from the EU?

Judging by many of the things I've watched and read,where it wasn't even mentioned other than the keeping our sovereignty false flag, it was mainly about immigration, so I would say 30% probably less.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Quick and genuine question for the remain folk, of the 52% who voted leave, what percentage do you think put their cross on the paper with the only desire being separation from the EU?

I’ve no idea of the percentage but I believe a big majority of them thought we could still trade but as part of EFTA, without any political affiliation.

 

[Chicken Run]

Around 85%, will fall further in the new year when the penny finally drops for the lesser informed. Despite everything I still genuinely feel for most of these people, they were sold the impossible dream by a bunch of crooks.

No deal is basically the end of the UK as we know it in its current form. Leavers feel happy to bookmark this post and return to it later, Johnson and Vote Leave has all but destroyed the Union

A sensible reply, I think even more than 85%, as for falling in the NY, the question was at the ballot box at the time of vote.

The challenge any intelligent Remainer will have is the vast majority simply voted to Divorce the EU, nothing more nothing less so to put it bluntly, we got what we wanted and still will regardless of the outcome of negotiations and if you can begin to accept that you might then stop wasting your time on this thread trying to re educate us.

Peace xx

 

[Chicken Run]

I don’t know is my answer, what’s yours?

Who’s your other account, mmmm I’d put a small bet you’re Guinness Boy [emoji6]

 

[Chicken Run]

I’ve no idea of the percentage but I believe a big majority of them thought we could still trade but as part of EFTA, without any political affiliation.

Fair enough, I disagree though, the electorate were offered a Y/N vote, the remainers had one eye on the economics the leavers simply wanted a Divorce, I genuinely don’t believe many levers marched to the ballot box that day even knowing how long the divorce would take[emoji106]

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Quick and genuine question for the remain folk, of the 52% who voted leave, what percentage do you think put their cross on the paper with the only desire being separation from the EU?

Of the 52% ( of the ~66% who expressed a preference ) I suspect 70%+ just wanted to leave the EU political structures and take the best economic deal from there.

"No one is talking about leaving the Single Market" was a massive, vote winning lie.

I voted remain but would have been very happy with a Norway type Brexit.

 

[Lever]

Who’s your other account, mmmm I’d put a small bet you’re Guinness Boy [emoji6]

You're wrong of course and seem to make it a bit of a habit, but what on earth has that to do with it. You asked a 'genuine' question and I gave an honest answer.

What is the matter with you?

 

[Chicken Run]

Of the 52% ( of the ~66% who expressed a preference ) I suspect 70%+ just wanted to leave the EU political structures and rake the best economic deal from there.

"No one is talking about leaving the Single Market" was a massive, vote winning lie.

I voted remain but would have been very happy with a Norway type Brexit.

Fair points, think of the average Joe walking to the ballot box in Mile Oak intent on voting leave, is he thinking , mmm I’m voting leave and I’ll let the powers to be sort out the all important Norway type agreement or is he saying, **** this, I want nothing to do with the EU ?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Fair enough, I disagree though, the electorate were offered a Y/N vote, the remainers had one eye on the economics the leavers simply wanted a Divorce, I genuinely don’t believe many levers marched to the ballot box that day even knowing how long the divorce would take[emoji106]

It’s ok wanting a divorce but to use one example, a very large majority of insulin used in this country comes from Europe, so not having trade agreements puts us in a very unsafe place.
We’ve been told so many times it was Project Fear, but that is the truth.

 

[Chicken Run]

You're wrong of course and seem to make it a bit of a habit, but what on earth has that to do with it. You asked a 'genuine' question and I gave an honest answer.

What is the matter with you?

Well who’s your other account/s then, btw don’t be so sensitive, it’s quite common on this thread to accuse people of having multiple accounts, you only really post on this thread or other Bear Pit topics,chill out x

 

[Lever]

Well who’s your other account/s then, btw don’t be so sensitive, it’s quite common on this thread to accuse people of having multiple accounts, chill out x

Not being oversensitive Chicken Run.
No multiple accounts here. What is yours?
Chilled. You?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Fair points, think of the average Joe walking to the ballot box in Mile Oak intent on voting leave, is he thinking , mmm I’m voting leave and I’ll let the powers to be sort out the all important Norway type agreement or is he saying, **** this, I want nothing to do with the EU ?

The average Joe spent the majority of the last 47 years not worrying about the EU at all until certain papers started convincing them that their problems were caused by ´them over there’, instead of successive government failures.

 

[Chicken Run]

It’s ok wanting a divorce but to use one example, a very large majority of insulin used in this country comes from Europe, so not having trade agreements puts us in a very unsafe place.
We’ve been told so many times it was Project Fear, but that is the truth.

I refer the honourable lady to the reply I gave BV just a few moments ago, I don’t doubt what you talk of will be anything other than challenging.

 

[Chicken Run]

I refer the honourable lady to the reply I gave BV just a few moments ago, I don’t doubt what you talk of will be anything other than challenging.

[emoji23] I think I’ll leave you be my lovely, for the record I don’t believe you though[emoji102][emoji102]

 

[daveinprague]

[emoji23] I think I’ll leave you be my lovely, for the record I don’t believe you though[emoji102][emoji102]

Are you talking to yourself?

 

[Chicken Run]

Are you talking to yourself?

It would seem that way

 

[Chicken Run]

The average Joe spent the majority of the last 47 years not worrying about the EU at all until certain papers started convincing them that their problems were caused by ´them over there’, instead of successive government failures.

I agree with with you

 

[pastafarian]

Every mention of fish makes me laugh. There are more people working for Debenhams than fishermen in this country. Who is protesting and standing up for them?
The fishing rights were sold off in the 90s, so we have very few British fishing fleets now, and those sell their catch to the EU, but won’t be able to after January.
It’s more to do with Rule Britannia ruling the waves, but many don’t understand we only have 12 miles of territorial waters. Anything else is international.

The UK`s EEZ is quite significant. Pointless pretending it isnt.

To be fair, he's probably the happiest Brexiteer on here. Throughout the whole 4.5 years he's never been able to explain what type of Brexit he wanted and still has no idea what type he's going to get

That of course, is likely to all change in the next day or two

That will be the exit I was able to vote for, the one which sees our membership of the EU end.
It was the only question I was asked 4.5 years ago.
Unlike you I was able to comprehend before I voted, that should my voting instruction win, the method of leaving would be in the hands of the executive.
I am indeed happy, i got exactly what i voted for.
You having a meltdown is just a Brucie bonus

Pasta once explained that he, and everyone he knew, voted Leave on the issue of sovereignty. That was their thing. Therefore, if the UK gains a slightly more defined version of sovereignty - nothing like the 19th century version obviously, or even the one of sixty years ago, but something like that which, oh I don't know, Brazil might presently have - then that in itself is enough for complete contentment. He and his friends will be Martha & the Vandellaring all over town. Who knows, possibly even circle jerking.

The point is, we won't be some two-bit vassal state like France. We will almost certainly lose influence, we'll be relatively poorer and, on current trends, less respected. None of that matters to Pasta as much as that increase - notional I'd argue - in sovereignty. Bugger the shutting down of freedoms - he wasn't planning to study, work, live, retire or be ill outside Britain anyway. Bugger any increase in poverty too. He's got enough to keep cash flow issues at bay.

He won!

It was an important issue for many people. Some people will miss this even when its staring them in the face. Well spotted you though.

Not once did he explain how countries had a veto without ‘sovereignty’. Britain had more opt outs than any other members.

Not once did you explain how the UK could use a veto where the decision is now made by qualified majority voting instead of unanimity. You know how 80% of Council decisions are now made, all in the name of pooled sovereignty.

 

[nicko31]

A sensible reply, I think even more than 85%, as for falling in the NY, the question was at the ballot box at the time of vote.

The challenge any intelligent Remainer will have is the vast majority simply voted to Divorce the EU, nothing more nothing less so to put it bluntly, we got what we wanted and still will regardless of the outcome of negotiations and if you can begin to accept that you might then stop wasting your time on this thread trying to re educate us.

Peace xx

This is what you were promised...



If I had fallen for this, I'd be a pretty pissed TBH but maybe you enjoy being lied to as long as you feel it makes others feel disenfranchised

I hope you have the financial resources to ride it out. Many will be less unfortunate

 

[nicko31]

The UK`s EEZ is quite significant. Pointless pretending it isnt.

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That will be the exit I was able to vote for, the one which sees our membership of the EU end.
It was the only question I was asked 4.5 years ago.
Unlike you I was able to comprehend before I voted, that should my voting instruction win, the method of leaving would be in the hands of the executive.
I am indeed happy, i got exactly what i voted for.
You having a meltdown is just a Brucie bonus




It was an important issue for many people. Some people will miss this even when its staring them in the face. Well spotted you though.

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Not once did you explain how the UK could use a veto where the decision is now made by qualified majority voting instead of unanimity. You know how 80% of Council decisions are now made, all in the name of pooled sovereignty.

Blimey a lot of that fish is in Scottish waters, have you thought this through?