[Politics] Brexit

[Dorset Seagull]

I read today that 70% of previous student votes in elections voted in their home constituencies or something like that. Seemed to suggest that it wouldnt be a problem that they had returned home by 12th

 

[pastafarian]

You never really did explain why on a Brexit thread, apropos of absolutely nothing, in the middle of a debate you took the time to mock up and post a google search page displaying the bookmarks for Porn, Nasty Porn, Really Nasty Porn and Spare Porn. Then disappear for weeks when it was pointed out.

Maybe you did explain and I missed it but do an old fool a favour and run it by us again? See how gullible we all really are.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear clampy.
What made you believe I disappeared for weeks after it was “pointed out”? (you can look it up you know)
Did someone say so on the internet and you thought i`ll go with that…… ….I wonder who misrepresented that information.

Here, have a hat……..gullible edition.

I can appreciate that when you don't know whether you want a deal or no deal, you have to change position so regularly that holding a view for 12 weeks must be nigh on impossible.

Still, at least I'm sure you wouldn't claim that nobody has changed their view in 3.5 years

Incorrect as usual. I do know what I want. Why don’t you know? You were only just boasting about your technical expertise in using the search function. What went wrong?

 

[pastafarian]

Looking forward to the General Election predictions .... The Tories might win or Labour or a hung parliament .... spooky

Cant believe the votes in parliament and that we are having another democratic general election. I don’t know what this country is coming to. Its getting more and more like 1930s nazi Germany every day. The remoaners (not the same as remainers) were right. The parallels are everywhere.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

FFS ,does she come in the form of a blow up Doll
regards
DF

Even if she did you would still strike out.

 

[Two Professors]

Really?

I'm not a fan of the sectarian state, but it is part of our nation, and it would be quite unprecedented to deny them the same rights as ourselves, even if we have allowed them in the past to retain peculiar (including homophobic) local laws of their own (now largely revoked).

We sent troops into Ulster initially to protect the Catholics from sectarian Proddies, but it ended up being to stop the sectarian Catholics ripping the place apart. No surrender to the IRA and all that. Cutting them adrift is a recipe for Troubles and possibly a united Ireland. If Thatcher were alive today she'd turn in her grave. I wonder what members (and one notable ex-member) of this board who served in the forces in Ulster think about this?

Throwing part of our nation to the wolves is intolerable and unprecedented. If that's my view, how it looks to genuine Conservative and Unionists.....well.....

Is Brexit worth any price? Is there no constitutional arrangement that you are not prepared to rip up in the name of....more 'freedom' - for the English?

I don't suppose you will ever read this unless your ignore button has left you a 'Dear John' letter,but here goes.I served in Ulster in the early 70's and met many wonderful people there,but also many very bad ones from all political and religious persuasions.If you think Brexiteers and Remainers are entrenched in their views,then you have never met Loyalists and Republicans.I would be more than happy for the Republic to have the burden of looking after the whole shebang,no more than they deserve for their allowing murderers asylum on their territory all the way through the 'Troubles'.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Incorrect as usual. I do know what I want. Why don’t you know? You were only just boasting about your technical expertise in using the search function. What went wrong?

Well it's very simple to prove I'm incorrect. Simply show the quote. But it is obvious that you won't because it doesn't exist

 

[nicko31]

Really?

I'm not a fan of the sectarian state, but it is part of our nation, and it would be quite unprecedented to deny them the same rights as ourselves, even if we have allowed them in the past to retain peculiar (including homophobic) local laws of their own (now largely revoked).

We sent troops into Ulster initially to protect the Catholics from sectarian Proddies, but it ended up being to stop the sectarian Catholics ripping the place apart. No surrender to the IRA and all that. Cutting them adrift is a recipe for Troubles and possibly a united Ireland. If Thatcher were alive today she'd turn in her grave. I wonder what members (and one notable ex-member) of this board who served in the forces in Ulster think about this?

Throwing part of our nation to the wolves is intolerable and unprecedented. If that's my view, how it looks to genuine Conservative and Unionists.....well.....

Is Brexit worth any price? Is there no constitutional arrangement that you are not prepared to rip up in the name of....more 'freedom' - for the English?

The Conservative and UNIONIST party, what an absolute joke they are now.

The damage doesn't matter anymore to, they are so deep in the lie now there is no way out, but there is a way out for the British people if we can finally wake up....

 

[Grombleton]

FFS ,does she come in the form of a blow up Doll
regards
DF

Looking for a wife?

 

[Baldseagull]

I don't suppose you will ever read this unless your ignore button has left you a 'Dear John' letter,but here goes.I served in Ulster in the early 70's and met many wonderful people there,but also many very bad ones from all political and religious persuasions.If you think Brexiteers and Remainers are entrenched in their views,then you have never met Loyalists and Republicans.I would be more than happy for the Republic to have the burden of looking after the whole shebang,no more than they deserve for their allowing murderers asylum on their territory all the way through the 'Troubles'.

A young Martin O'Neill maybe?

 

[The Clamp]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear clampy.
What made you believe I disappeared for weeks after it was “pointed out”? (you can look it up you know)
Did someone say so on the internet and you thought i`ll go with that…… ….I wonder who misrepresented that information.

Here, have a hat……..gullible edition.

I do apologise if I got that wrong. Nevertheless, I don't suppose we'll be getting an explanation soon. Go on, make a gullible old fool happy?

 

[pastafarian]

Well it's very simple to prove I'm incorrect. Simply show the quote. But it is obvious that you won't because it doesn't exist

You are still incorrect in your belief that I don’t know what I want. I really do know what I want. Carry on searching. Have you been looking in the right place?

 

[pastafarian]

I do apologise if I got that wrong.

Not your fault, you believed someone who is economical with the truth.

I don't suppose we'll be getting an explanation soon. Go on, make a gullible old fool happy?

Who is the "we" i am supposed to be explaining myself to?

 

[The Clamp]

Not your fault, you believed someone who is economical with the truth.



Who is the "we" i am supposed to be explaining myself to?

You're saying nothing and telling me everything.

 

[The Clamp]

You are still incorrect in your belief that I don’t know what I want. I really do know what I want. Carry on searching. Have you been looking in the right place?

Why, one only has to look at your bookmarks to know what it is you want

 

[pastafarian]

You're saying nothing and telling me everything.

I would like to know who the we is you are referring to, have you nominated yourself as leader of your pack?

 

[The Clamp]

I would like to know who the we is you are referring to, have you nominated yourself as leader of your pack?

Me, myself, and I.

 

[clapham_gull]

Not according to the politics correspondent on 5Live this morning, who said he'd been through lots of university term dates this morning and December 12th was term time for most of them.

I can't be arsed to check any more than Sussex and Brighton, but both are sill open on the 12th.

Not sure who made up this "All the students will have ****ed off by December 12th" urban myth, but it seems to have been spread by a lot of people who can't be bothered to actually check.

The student vote is a very sensitive issue within the Tory party at the moment, especially for the PM. He has a wafer thin majority of 5,000 and 10,000 students and staff within his constituency at Brunel University.

Johnson has the smallest majority of any PM since 1924.



There are a number of other things stacked against him.

He's not that popular (even with local Tories) especially with issues like Heathrow and his disappearance when the vote took place.

The demographics have changed in the area with younger people moving in and unlikely to vote Tory.

It has one of the worst performing A&E departments in the UK.

The party consider the constituency as officially "vulnerable" and I'd expect quite a "nasty" campaign down there.

If Labour stick to campaigning on local issues, it's not beyond the realms of possibility he loses his seat and the students tip the balance.

The Tories will be relying on the celebrity "having the PM as local MP effect" but not much else.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The student vote is a very sensitive issue within the Tory party at the moment, especially for the PM. He has a wafer thin majority of 5,000 and 10,000 students and staff within his constituency at Brunel University.



He's not even that popular within the local party especially with issues like Heathrow etc..

I still chuckle when I think of the Uxbridge resident, who was asked what she thought of Johnson.
That disgusting toe rag she replied.

 

[Mental Lental]

The student vote is a very sensitive issue within the Tory party at the moment, especially for the PM. He has a wafer thin majority of 5,000 and 10,000 students and staff within his constituency at Brunel University.

Johnson has the smallest majority of any PM since 1924.



There are a number of other things stacked against him.

He's not that popular (even with local Tories) especially with issues like Heathrow and his disappearance when the vote took place.

The demographics have changed in the area (younger people moving in) and the party consider the constituency as "vulnerable".

It has one of the worst performing A&E departments in the UK.

Expect quite a "nasty" campaign down there. If Labour stick to campaigning on local issues, it's not beyond the realms of possibility he loses his seat and the students tip the balance.

So no surprise (understandably) that the Tories would do anything to limit the effect of the student vote.

Surely if you were that politically active as a student you'd make sure you were registered in Boris' constituency and you'd either hang around til election day in your student digs or post in a vote from home. I can't that see anyone that took the effort to change their registration address from their home constituency would then not bother to vote at that new address just because they're not living there on polling day.

I don't think it's going to matter much.

 

[clapham_gull]

Surely if you were that politically active as a student you'd make sure you were registered in Boris' constituency and you'd either hang around til election day in your student digs or post in a vote from home. I can't that see anyone that took the effort to change their registration address from their home constituency would then not bother to vote at that new address just because they're not living there on polling day.

I don't think it's going to matter much.

You are talking nationally and I probably agree, but as I stated above it's a particularly sensitive issue for Boris where every vote matters.

It's a reality, he is danger of losing his seat. As a student, even if you aren't politically minded I'd imagine it's quite seductive (even a bit of a laugh) to be the ones who helped unseat the PM.

The Conservative party are fully aware of the situation as are all opposition parties.

However much I can't stand Boris, I'm looking objectively at the "problem". No surprise the Tories want to do anything to dampen the student vote and the opposition encourage them to vote.

It's all about Boris.