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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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A1X

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Inward investment brings 4,800 new jobs a month to the UK
Over 57,000 new jobs were created as a result of inward investment from foreign direct investment projects in 2018/19.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inward-investment-brings-4800-new-jobs-a-month-to-the-uk

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, I assume it's along the lines of "who cares there's more jobs coming in", the point being this is one major employer in an area, and will have knock on impacts down supply chains. And if PSA are doing it there's no reason to assume Honda won't follow suit. And Nissan. And then we have others, such as Airbus. These things are dominos, and the first one has been threatened to fall.
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
It's the only way forward, there is no deal out there that replicates what we have now so either stick to what is there now or go all out crashing out without any kind of deal

The Brexiteers said we could have our cake and eat it, that was a lie, we can't

Now the lies can't be delivered they want no deal, they said lots of other things well and they never said no deal in 2016, the people must be asked.

If they vote for no deal, well lets go ahead and we deal with the consequences, but not until there is a mandate to do so

That is what really getting on with it means
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
The PSA (Astra) issue shows what is often called the 'false equivalence' in the coverage of Brexit. So this morning on the R5 Live business programme, the presenter framed this in the following way: we want you views. Are they (the company) just using Brexit as an excuse for pulling out of the UK? This is a lunatic question which only the most paranoid of Brexiteers could connect with. Here's a company that is saying - for good, obvious, common sense, business reasons - it there a hard Brexit it will damage our business to the extent that we can't remain in the UK. It is virtually an unanswerable case. And yet here we go on the typical coverage inviting idiots who know nothing about the car industry to chip in with their 'this is just project fear' nonsense.

This is the false equivalence we get time and time again. Expert analysis counter-balanced (not) by a mixture of the totally uniformed or some Brexit-maniac from the Tory Party. We are dangerously close to becoming a nation in denial where reason is replaced by rancour and stupidity is valued above rational analysis. It's as if the Flat Earthers have found a platform.
 


Pretty Plnk Fairy

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Jan 30, 2008
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The PSA (Astra) issue shows what is often called the 'false equivalence' in the coverage of Brexit. So this morning on the R5 Live business programme, the presenter framed this in the following way: we want you views. Are they (the company) just using Brexit as an excuse for pulling out of the UK? This is a lunatic question which only the most paranoid of Brexiteers could connect with. Here's a company that is saying - for good, obvious, common sense, business reasons - it there a hard Brexit it will damage our business to the extent that we can't remain in the UK. It is virtually an unanswerable case. And yet here we go on the typical coverage inviting idiots who know nothing about the car industry to chip in with their 'this is just project fear' nonsense.

This is the false equivalence we get time and time again. Expert analysis counter-balanced (not) by a mixture of the totally uniformed or some Brexit-maniac from the Tory Party. We are dangerously close to becoming a nation in denial where reason is replaced by rancour and stupidity is valued above rational analysis. It's as if the Flat Earthers have found a platform.

Typical remoanier you forget that we invented the hovercrarft and can use thems instead dont need cars anyway so take that leftys

Regards
DR
 






The Upper Library

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May 23, 2013
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Typical remoanier you forget that we invented the hovercrarft and can use thems instead dont need cars anyway so take that leftys

Regards
DR

With that comment I have just realised something: you are not pro Brexit at all. You are just on the wind up....... very good!! You really had us going all this time with your illogical bluster!! Brilliant!..........that is the case isn’t it?



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Klaas

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Pretty Plnk Fairy

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Your continued propensity to chip in with such valued comments make my case rather better than I could manage. Many thanks!

Just you wait until the glories day especially if nigel forage becomes PM to as he has promised to take back control of our weather and get rid of the Eu centergrade and replace it with farren-height which will automatically make it warmerer as that’s a bigger number so our heating bills will decrease as well

Regards
DR
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
The PSA (Astra) issue shows what is often called the 'false equivalence' in the coverage of Brexit. So this morning on the R5 Live business programme, the presenter framed this in the following way: we want you views. Are they (the company) just using Brexit as an excuse for pulling out of the UK? This is a lunatic question which only the most paranoid of Brexiteers could connect with. Here's a company that is saying - for good, obvious, common sense, business reasons - it there a hard Brexit it will damage our business to the extent that we can't remain in the UK. It is virtually an unanswerable case. And yet here we go on the typical coverage inviting idiots who know nothing about the car industry to chip in with their 'this is just project fear' nonsense.

This is the false equivalence we get time and time again. Expert analysis counter-balanced (not) by a mixture of the totally uniformed or some Brexit-maniac from the Tory Party. We are dangerously close to becoming a nation in denial where reason is replaced by rancour and stupidity is valued above rational analysis. It's as if the Flat Earthers have found a platform.

I’m afraid the beeb are just terrified of this Tory government, since 2016 they’ve struggled with objective coverage on Brexit

It’s oretty basic stuff a no deal Brexit destroys manufacturing and agriculture industries, just ask JRM’s economics guru Patrick Minford

Still it won’t happen it’s a one in a million chance according to Boris
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Just you wait until the glories day especially if nigel forage becomes PM to as he has promised to take back control of our weather and get rid of the Eu centergrade and replace it with farren-height which will automatically make it warmerer as that’s a bigger number so our heating bills will decrease as well

Regards
DR

I actually think you are some kind of genius but if you could keep your posting borderline loony instead of totally loony then you will maintain the illusion.
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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There are some very strange polls right now: earlier this week, YouGov had one with BP in the lead, LDs second, with Cons in 4th place. Today, MORI has a poll with Tories in the lead, Lab second and BP in 4th place with 12% (almost half of the YG polls)

Either people are changing votes quicker than they're changing overcoats (© The Clash), or there's some strange sampling going on
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Extract for article by Simon Jenkins. Sums it up?

There was a time when even Nigel Farage was happy with “soft Brexit”. At the time of the 2016 referendum, there was no talk of a tariff wall in the Channel, rather a pledge now forgotten of “frictionless trade”. There was no demand for hard Brexit. The idea that no deal was better than a bad deal, coined by Theresa May two years ago, morphed into a rallying cry for the populist right. No deal has become the new machismo, though polls suggest barely a quarter of voters want it. Johnson says the chance of no deal by 31 October is “a million to one against”. Yet unless he plans something as yet unrevealed, this is rubbish. His hard Brexit is based on a legal fantasy, that under World Trade Organization rules you can have an agreement without a deal. The matter is not one of opinion but of law. Hunt, meanwhile, feels obliged to repeat May’s “no deal is better than a bad deal” mantra. This Dutch auction of chaos is cheered on by Tory party members.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Inward investment brings 4,800 new jobs a month to the UK
Over 57,000 new jobs were created as a result of inward investment from foreign direct investment projects in 2018/19.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inward-investment-brings-4800-new-jobs-a-month-to-the-uk

As was pointed out to you the last time you trotted out this misleading piece of info, this is a downward trajectory, the last three years has seen this figure drop and we are below the European average figure for inward investment. So do us a favour, either do your research properly or stop peddling lies. This kind of bullshit got us into this mess in the first place and there’s even less call for your ridiculous lies now.
Grow up or shut up.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/6416a20a-9805-11e9-8cfb-30c211dcd229

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/6416a20a-9805-11e9-8cfb-30c211dcd229

Foreign investment into the UK’s most productive industries has plunged since the 2016 Brexit referendum, official data showed, suggesting that uncertainty over future trading arrangements with the EU is stopping businesses from committing to the country.

The number of foreign investment projects into the UK dropped by 14 per cent to 1,782 in the fiscal year ending March 2019, marking the lowest level in six years, according to a report published on Wednesday by the UK’s Department for International Trade. It is the second consecutive annual fall since March 2017.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...reign-investment-drop-worrying-symptom-brexit

It really did take a matter of seconds to google about 30 articles proving you to be a bullshitter. You overestimate yourself and underestimate everyone else.
Shows you and the rest of your mob up as the spin doctor bullshat artists you really are.
 
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Westdene Seagull

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With that comment I have just realised something: you are not pro Brexit at all. You are just on the wind up....... very good!! You really had us going all this time with your illogical bluster!! Brilliant!..........that is the case isn’t it?



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A1X

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