[Politics] Brexit

[GrizzlingGammon]

I don't think that everything EU is bad. But I certainly don't think the EU does anything to enhance our sovereignty. I could list some 'bad' laws or policies but what's the point? The kind of EU that the enthusiasts want, is going to draw more and more power centrally. The EU, for good and for bad, does nothing but reduce self rule.

I would love to hear them. List them all, please.

 

[birthofanorange]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwK1MCTltSA

That was awful to listen to, but rings oh-so-true.

If it wasn't such a serious matter, it would be hysterically funny.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

That was awful to listen to, but rings oh-so-true.

If it wasn't such a serious matter, it would be hysterically funny.

Remain voter can't quote someone correctly, the difference between dingodan and Sussex Nomad is just too much to comprehend.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I would love to hear them. List them all, please.

Don't be silly, I would not ask something daft like that of anyone else so why would you unless you are trolling. But the CAP is a good place to start. It is not a good policy nor has it been for decades. And how about the stability pact. That was good wasn't it?

 

[Bodian]

I don't think that everything EU is bad. But I certainly don't think the EU does anything to enhance our sovereignty. I could list some 'bad' laws or policies but what's the point? The kind of EU that the enthusiasts want, is going to draw more and more power centrally. The EU, for good and for bad, does nothing but reduce self rule.

'What's the point?' The point is that many people, me included, cannot see what these 'bad' laws passed by the EU are, and would quite like to know.

 

[birthofanorange]

Remain voter can't quote someone correctly, the difference between dingodan and Sussex Nomad is just too much to comprehend.

Bless - is that the best response you can come up with, despite a given apology? That does you a world of good.

 

[daveinplzen]

Don't be silly, I would not ask something daft like that of anyone else so why would you unless you are trolling. But the CAP is a good place to start. It is not a good policy nor has it been for decades. And how about the stability pact. That was good wasn't it?

Thats a policy. You mentioned some 'laws'

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Bless - is that the best response you can come up with, despite a given apology? That does you a world of good.

No, I just find it funny, apologies if you don't.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

'What's the point?' The point is that many people, me included, cannot see what these 'bad' laws passed by the EU are, and would quite like to know.

So you didn't bother to find anything out before the referendum? Wow. There are always pros and cons. You didn't know what you were voting for then.

 

[birthofanorange]

So you didn't bother to find anything out before the referendum? Wow. There are always pros and cons. You didn't know what you were voting for then.

Was that you on that phone-in, as it could well have been.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Don't be silly, I would not ask something daft like that of anyone else so why would you unless you are trolling. But the CAP is a good place to start. It is not a good policy nor has it been for decades. And how about the stability pact. That was good wasn't it?

We all want to know what laws you don't like and why.

Are you referring to the Stability and Growth Pact?
I have no problem with checking that countries do not overspend.

So what is it about the CAP and S&G you dislike?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Thats a policy. You mentioned some 'laws'

You have paraphrased. I said 'laws and policies'.

 

[daveinplzen]

So you didn't bother to find anything out before the referendum? Wow. There are always pros and cons. You didn't know what you were voting for then.

Basically, you are unable to name any of these ''bad'' laws then? If thats the case, why bring up these ''bad'' laws. Its pretty ridiculous tbh

 

[birthofanorange]

No, I just find it funny, apologies if you don't.

Yes, it was funny, as I made a mistake and apologised for getting two ardent Leaver-types (not that I know for sure that you are, but you sure as hell do a good impression of one) mixed up.

Now you've had a little laugh at my expense, perhaps you'd give some examples of these bad EU Laws we have to follow?

 

[daveinplzen]

You have paraphrased. I said 'laws and policies'.

So, you didnt mean ''laws'' ?
If thats the case, why did you use the words ''laws''
Its just a soundbite for you isnt it.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

So you didn't bother to find anything out before the referendum? Wow. There are always pros and cons. You didn't know what you were voting for then.

Brexiteers are all thick, pulled into spin. All remainers are intelligent human beings that knew exactly what they were doing. That will always be the arguing point for remainers.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Yes, it was funny, as I made a mistake and apologised for getting two ardent Leaver-types (not that I know for sure that you are, but you sure as hell do a good impression of one) mixed up.

Now you've had a little laugh at my expense, perhaps you'd give some examples of these bad EU Laws we have to follow?

I don't need to tell you anything, or anyone else. Watching grown adults butcher themselves does have a degree of farce about it however. Generally, my argument is with British democracy, as opposed to this bin fest.

 

[daveinplzen]

Brexiteers are all thick, pulled into spin. All remainers are intelligent human beings that knew exactly what they were doing. That will always be the arguing point for remainers.

No it isnt. You can spin bullshit all you want. You fell for it, so im guessing youre quite used to it.
Its what people are seeing with their own eyes. Intelligence doesnt come to it.
You seem to be still running away from questions. Are you being ATTACKED by PACKS of people in a RAGE?

 

[birthofanorange]

Brexiteers are all thick, pulled into spin. All remainers are intelligent human beings that knew exactly what they were doing. That will always be the arguing point for remainers.

Stock response, with not one iota of detail to back up these claims of 'bad' Laws, even when asked in a reasonable manner. Surely you'd take pleasure in giving us the information...just to stick a finger up to Remainers, if nothing else?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Basically, you are unable to name any of these ''bad'' laws then? If thats the case, why bring up these ''bad'' laws. Its pretty ridiculous tbh

No, I mentioned the stability pact. Perhaps the most stupid and useless law broken for EU ideology and certainly the most harmful in its effect on the lives of ordinary folk. There were tons of regulations that the EU made at the time of the build up to the introduction of the Euro. I am no economist, but the regulations which are laws seemed sensible. That they were flouted for political expediency in favour of Greece in particular and iirc Italy, was a huge disaster and was one reason many people hardened their attitude towards the EU. Some of the poorest people in Europe are still suffering for the folly and vanity of Kohl et al.