[Politics] Brexit

[JC Footy Genius]

While you are on the moral high ground and accuse others of evasion and distraction, I wonder if you ever responded to the question I asked below? Genuinely humble apologies if you did and I missed it. It's just that (I estimate) around 90-95% of your posts focus on the issue of the outcome of the referendum, denying the will of the majority/undemocratic loons etc. I don't deny this is important and of course it's something of a trump (with a small t) card. But we never really get much by way of a positive vision. How will things be better after Brexit?


Fair enough; ignore the likes of the CBI and TUC if you will. But how about a vision of what the UK might look like in say 3 or 5 years time after the Brexit process? Here are some prompts but feel free to add your own good news items. What will our pattern of international trade look like? How will our public services fare? How about agriculture when we are free from the shackles of the CAP? Will our universities be flourishing? Where will economic growth come from? Will the NHS get its Brexit bonus funding? Will SMEs pick up any slack in the economy? Can we solve the UK productivity problems? Will there be a rebalancing of the economy regionally? Will worker and consumer protection be improved? Will we attract a higher calibre of immigrant?

The thrust of the Brexiteer's arguments don't go much beyond:

a) so called project fear was wrong last time so it'll be wrong again
b) the UK economy is doing better currently than most thought it would (OK, especially Remainers)


So - what is there for us to look forward to after Brexit? Let's have a bit of inspiration. Please?

My sincerest apologies for not replying but I have on numerous occasions posted the positive case for leaving in direct response to accusations that none are forthcoming. Perhaps you missed them.

Increased democratic accountability for those that govern us.

Re-establishing Primacy of UK law.

Halting UK drift towards ever closer union.

Increased control of immigration.

Prioritising UK trade economic opportunities with the fastest growing countries, trade blocks.

Not being part of an organisation that ignores democracy and inflicts crushing austerity on the poorest and most vulnerable (see Greece)

Even the EU fear we will become an economic success, a less regulatory bureaucratic nation, more free market powerhouse on the edge of Europe ... Such a shame many Uk citizens can't see the opportunities

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Eminently sensible, however I fear there are too many morons.

A die-hard Corbynista believing a Marxist/Socialist future is best for the UK calling other people morons ..... priceless

 

[Driver8]

It really is very, very simple, if you’re not a moron.

We revoke, to avoid a calamitous disorderly exit. Then with the self-imposed deadline removed, we analyse the facts and debate the options properly, without the sword of Damocles hanging over us. Then we act on, or vote on, the sensible alternatives, which might include the status quo.

Or alternatively next time we go back for an extension the EU say it’s open ended but you give us six months notice if leaving. Just take the pressure off and sit down like grown ups to decide how and if we leave.

 

[portslade seagull]

The Met Office suggests you'll be disappointed.

Rather tomorrow than the 6th

 

[GT49er]

Surprised you haven't joined the 'We've been conned again and given good old Nige another £50 and he's not even joining us, but we're happy to be poorer now and post 29 March, march'

Ah, the good old brexit conspiracy theories line. There is no such march. Sorry to disappoint you; still, I expect you're used to disappointment since the referendum result shocked so many people, eh?

 

[Ernest]

Petition now at 3.7 million, that is pretty impressive

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Petition now at 3.7 million, that is pretty impressive

Always remember you are one of the 17.4 million and your preferred option is to leave without a deal in direct opposition to the dear leader's policy.

 

[Baldseagull]

Yes aware of all that and my god nobody is clean on either side. But regardless, the Remain camp had vastly more things in its favour. The entire establishment was against leaving which probably dwarves anything Trump and co could buy. No, the Remainers were the Man City of Brexit whilst the Leavers were, well, Wigan of the 3rd tier. ‘‘Twas and always will be remembered as an almighty cup shock in football parlance!

Boris Johnsons decision to back leave was a big plus for the leave campaign, the data and reach of Cambridge Analytica, and the simple fact that they could say pretty much what they liked without having to deliver it.

 

[nicko31]

Prioritising UK trade economic opportunities with the fastest growing countries, trade blocks.

Which countries did you have in mind?

And what were you planning to sell to them?

Curious whether its something worthwhile we can't do already....

 

[nicko31]

Petition now at 3.7 million, that is pretty impressive

About 10 times that of the petition for no deal, and its only been going 48 hours

Little surprised Brexiteers are terrified of putting Brexit reality to a test with the public

 

[nicko31]

Just doing the banners for tomorrow's march. My 14 year old came up with

Victor Meldrew stole my future...

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Rather funny watching the remainers wet their pants in their own echo chamber. Even funnier that some of their predictions have been utterly wrong. Poor old Meg !

 

[Baker lite]

Petition now at 3.7 million, that is pretty impressive

I see Eddy Amin Dadda has signed it, He’s been dead since 2003, impressive indeed..





By legal default, on our way.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

My sincerest apologies for not replying but I have on numerous occasions posted the positive case for leaving in direct response to accusations that none are forthcoming. Perhaps you missed them.

Increased democratic accountability for those that govern us.

Re-establishing Primacy of UK law.

Halting UK drift towards ever closer union.

Increased control of immigration. this could have been done, but the UK chose not to.

Prioritising UK trade economic opportunities with the fastest growing countries, trade blocks.

Not being part of an organisation that ignores democracy and inflicts crushing austerity on the poorest and most vulnerable (see Greece) The Conservatives have this covered. But it will be crushing austerity by British people. That makes it ok

Even the EU fear we will become an economic success, a less regulatory bureaucratic nation, more free market powerhouse on the edge of Europe ... Such a shame many Uk citizens can't see the opportunities. how will the UK become a powerhouse? Becoming a tax haven and lowering food and environmental standards. Do you really think the EU fears the UK?

A few points to start.

 

[nicko31]

4.1 million signed a petition 2 years ago calling for a second referendum.

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Please don't tell lies

 

[WATFORD zero]

Rather funny watching the remainers wet their pants in their own echo chamber. Even funnier that some of their predictions have been utterly wrong. Poor old Meg !

Meg says how's your preparations for 'no deal' in 7 days time going, all according to plan ?

I have to say, i do admire your unbridled optimism in the face of overwhelming adversity.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

4.1 million signed a petition 2 years ago calling for a second referendum.

The numbers are to be expected. There is also a probability that both petitions have been boosted by bots.

It is being checked regularly for bots.

 

[Baldseagull]

You are a wit.

Well halfway there

A shining wit, as Rev. Spooner may have said.

 

[vegster]

I see Eddy Amin Dadda has signed it, He’s been dead since 2003, impressive indeed..





By legal default, on our way.

So, even dead people can see Brexit is stupid yet you can't ?


#gonnastay

 

[Baker lite]

Just doing the banners for tomorrow's march. My 14 year old came up with

Victor Meldrew stole my future...

How did a fictitious character steal your 14 year olds future?






By legal default, on our way.