[Politics] Brexit

[Stat Brother]

We should **** with their minds by sending them on a post-Brexit trade meeting to Australia. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when they realise they’ve not fallen off the edge of the earth.

Although sending them to discuss trade with like minded individuals may result in us being asked to live off a diet of racism and misogyny.

 

[Triggaaar]

Honda has now admitted it was already deep into the process of converting its UK manufacturing facility to make electric vehicles when it pulled the plug and decided to leave instead. In other words, it really *was* about Brexit after all.

Or, they had invested in converting their UK facility, when Japan then did a deal with the EU, allowing them to build in Japan instead.

If it really was about Brexit, why not wait just a few weeks until we know what's happening on the 29th March?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[Thunder Bolt]

Or, they had invested in converting their UK facility, when Japan then did a deal with the EU, allowing them to build in Japan instead.

If it really was about Brexit, why not wait just a few weeks until we know what's happening on the 29th March?

Do you really think we will know what is happening on the 29th March?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

in what way do they not represent their electorate? you're saying the people of NI elect people whose view they dont agree with.

Northern Ireland has 18 seats in Westminster.

 

[Triggaaar]

Do you really think we will know what is happening on the 29th March?

We'll know a lot more than we know now. Either an extension purely to carry on kicking a bag of shit around (which seems like a pointless idea to me), No Deal Brexit (which seems unlikely), A Deal (which seems unlikely), or something different, like talk of another referendum, or complete change to May's deal.

The point is it's just a few weeks away, which is nothing in terms of Honda's long term policies, and there's still a good chance that whatever Brexit turns out to be, won't affect companies manufacturing here.

 

[Stat Brother]

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[Blue Valkyrie]

This should be the end of it. Pull article 50 and apologise to the electorate.

It wouldn't be the end of it, sadly.

An angry Farage and the yellow vest 'undemocratic loons' would continue to poison our society. Backed up by enough targetted dis-information, who knows where that future leads ?

 

[nicko31]

So the AT tells parliament nothing has changed, but parliament should vote for May's deal anyway

Basically ignore the law, just vote with your heart

 

[nicko31]

It wouldn't be the end of it, sadly.

An angry Farage and the yellow vest 'undemocratic loons' would continue to poison our society. Backed up by enough targetted dis-information, who knows where that future leads ?

Need to fight evil with good, and fight misinformation with truth and facts. We can't give in to Brexit elites leaching off the country...

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

If only this had been obvious to everyone else on day 1.

Oh, it was.

*rolls eyes*

https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/1105446312999309312?s=19

 

[Stat Brother]

Where's Boris?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Need to fight evil with good, and fight misinformation with truth and facts. We can't give in to Brexit elites leaching off the country...

Yes, and no.

Fighting misinformation with truth and facts generally fails. The misinformed are simply not interested. It is how most of our brains work.

The only way is to cut off the delivery mechanisms of the misinformation, and to prosecute robustly the agents of influence.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Where's Boris?

Laying low, and waiting for May to resign.

 

[Hotchilidog]

An utter shambles, a costly waste of two years in which the governance of this country has gone down the toilet. May is not fit to govern, she has mishandled the the single most important constitutional issue of the last 50 years all because she kept her focus inward on her party and not on the country. A government tht has LITERALLY been held in contempt by parliament, a refusal to answer questions in a straight forward manner, constantly trying to keep parliament out of the process, the list goes on.

Meanwhile on planet everyday life, the NHS, Schools, Local Councils, Social Services and the Police find their resources slashed. Vulnerable people find themselves struggling day to day at the hands of an unrelentingly vicious benefits system. Seriously just get these useless people out.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Laying low, and waiting for May to resign.

Probably in the gym losing weight.

Must have the right look for the leadership contest.

Has he had a recent haircut ?

 

[nicko31]

Yes, and no.

Fighting misinformation with truth and facts generally fails. The misinformed are simply not interested. It is how most of our brains work.

The only way is to cut off the delivery mechanisms of the misinformation, and to prosecute robustly the agents of influence.

There are some that just will never listen, but others will see the light and realise complex issues can't be solved with populism.

As for cutting off delivery mechanisms the law hasn't caught up with reality, problem is parliament is paralysed with Brexit.

 

[Baldseagull]

It is now apparent that the DUP are running brexit decision making. Whichever side of the argument you are on it is a disgrace that a party with 19th century attitudes to religion and social affairs and who in no way represent the NI electorate which voted remain is put in such a commanding position.

Yes, for people that voted to leave because the EU is not democratic enough, it must be quite a shock.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

There are some that just will never listen, but others will see the light and realise complex issues can't be solved with populism.

As for cutting off delivery mechanisms the law hasn't caught up with reality, problem is parliament is paralysed with Brexit.

Indeed.

Good point about the law lagging behind technology.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

It is now apparent that the DUP are running brexit decision making. Whichever side of the argument you are on it is a disgrace that a party with 19th century attitudes to religion and social affairs and who in no way represent the NI electorate which voted remain is put in such a commanding position.

If only May had built as big a consensus in Parliament as possible before issuing her red line dictats.

The DUP would now be nobodies. And we'd have a deal done.

*sigh*