[Politics] Brexit

[Two Professors]

Interesting that the narrative here has entirely moved on from 'Is Brexit a complete disaster for the UK?', to 'who is to blame for Brexit being a complete disaster for the UK?'.

I read an article yesterday that detailed how in yougov polling, "Is leaving the EU a bad idea?" has returned a Yes answer for the last 18 straight months, with the latest poll returning the highest majority yet (9 points).

We all know 'the people' no longer want to leave, by a bigger majority than they ever voted otherwise. The politicians know it. The media know it. It is all just a ridiculous, hellish charade.

Seriously, what the actual ****?

And there was me thinking YouGov were an impartial polling company.In 5 years of being a panellist,I have never been asked "Is leaving the EU a bad idea".Funny that.

 

[Two Professors]

I think Laura has hit the nail on the head absolutely dead centre:

 

[A1X]

How many buzz words can we get in one sentence..

IMHO we need to run it up the flag pole and see who salutes it. It'll at least give us a ball-park figure, from there we can touch base and take it offline to see what ideas we can come up with.

 

[cjd]

I would think as we have provided EU nationals here with settled status, then the reciprocal agreement should already be in place?

To be fair to the Government (UK) they offered this almost two years ago. Sadly the French Government will only legally agree to this once all is settled and there is a reciprocal arrangement. Unfortunately, should we leave with 'No deal' then these arrangements will be null and void.

To have an appointment here ( it is a little slow here...lol) to sort Residency etc etc is booked up until November. Other departments are making no further appointments for the for-seeable future.

Should we 'Leave' with a deal....then the fun and squabbling between the UK and Europe will begin. If people thought the last two years of negotiations were long-winded, it will be nothing compared to sorting Trade Agreements, Fishing Rights, Gibraltar etc.

Challenging times for all I'm afraid.

 

[Baker lite]

You bought him into it. Anyway, it's a nice sunny day and I'm gonna head out and get a spot of brunch. Theres a lovley cafe with a secluded outdoor dining area near me where they do a pitta filled with grilled haloumi, grilled peppers and veg, tatsiki, olives and coleslaw. Stick a nice blood orange San Pelegrino in a glass with ice and bingo! Have a nice day.

I did indeed,after you mentioned that your grandfather would have referred to Me as a “sore winner “but as long as you’re pleased with yourself.Enjoy your brunch,sounds good.






On our way.

 

[neilbard]

IMHO we need to run it up the flag pole and see who salutes it. It'll at least give us a ball-park figure, from there we can touch base and take it offline to see what ideas we can come up with.

Indeed, with the implementation of best practices and thinking outside the box we may be able to avoid this logistical nightmare.

 

[Gwylan]

And there was me thinking YouGov were an impartial polling company.In 5 years of being a panellist,I have never been asked "Is leaving the EU a bad idea".Funny that.

There's a slight bias in all polling organisations: YouGov tends to favour the Tories. It was set up by two Tory activists (one of whom is now an MP). The current CEO is founder Stephan Shakespeare and the chairman is Saatchi alumnus Roger Parry, who wrote the Tory party report on the future of local media. I'll always knock a percentage point off YG's Conservative polling figures.

 

[Triggaaar]

You probably think it's only remainers who find you depressingly banal, but I suspect there are leavers who do too but dare not say it.

I think his posts are a reflection on this thread. He wouldn't be making his posts were it not for the repetitive insults from many of the remainers here.

 

[Triggaaar]

I am a 'remainer' and the constant rubbish posted on here is so disappointing.

I now live in France...( and have done so for a few years now ). I'm retired and whatever is decided over the next few weeks is incredibly important to me....and a few million others living in Europe. People like me will have to accept what Parliament/Government decides over the next few weeks and get on with the total disruption to our lives that it could bring. I can do that.

What is so deeply offensive on this thread is the pathetic comments made by regular posters on both sides of this national divide.

This forum has many posters....with many different views....and much 'informed' knowledge.

This thread has failed NSC,s usual high standards.

I am sad about that.

That's how I feel about this thread. I did consider starting a Brexit thread where insults / winding up etc was not allowed, but I assumed I'd have been wasting my time.

 

[neilbard]

Delay means delay, A50 postponed beyond EP election. All is well, Nigel will still have a job...

 

[The Clamp]

I think his posts are a reflection on this thread. He wouldn't be making his posts were it not for the repetitive insults from many of the remainers here.

Pfft
Typical Brexiter, blaming anyone but themselves. We all decide how we choose to react. That’s down to every individual.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Extension to end of June it is then. Not that anything will be resolved by then.

 

[Stat Brother]

Gideon weighing in on all the u-turns.

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/...ts-as-brexit-positions-collapse-a4076846.html

 

[nicko31]

Extension to end of June it is then. Not that anything will be resolved by then.

There will riots tonight and civil unrest

 

[Triggaaar]

and we're back to name calling!

and now it's moved on to calling grandparents names.

 

[neilbard]

There will riots tonight and civil unrest

There will if we don't get anything from the King Power..

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I think his posts are a reflection on this thread. He wouldn't be making his posts were it not for the repetitive insults from many of the remainers here.

He wouldn't be posting if he wasn't banned as PPF.

Regards,

BV

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[Stat Brother]

and now it's moved on to calling grandparents names.

Just when you think they've run out, they find even more embarrassing ways to undermine this thread.

Thankfully it's not representative of the Brexit debate at large...









...oh.

 

[beorhthelm]

vote for the deal, if rejected vote on no deal, if rejected vote on extension.

why not do this tomorrow, what exactly is suppose to happen in next two weeks to change anything?

 

[lawros left foot]

Ok so I'll backtrack from almost equally to blame, as obviously the Labour Party is in no why responsible for starting the madness beginning as a Public School squabble.

But unlike many here I do firmly believe that one way or the other the country wouldn't be where it is now, 750 hours from 'no deal' with almost hourly revelation of stuff we've forgotten to pack, if the Labour Party wasn't trying (and failing) to stop fighting among themselves.

SB,do you really think that the Tories who have been in charge of this shambles since it’s ill conceived conception would have allowed any kind of meaningful input from Labour? I think May and her merry bunch of incompetents, wanted to have complete ownership of this, because they completely underestimated how impossible this task was.
The real blame for this must lie with the cowardly right wing of the Tories who dropped us in it with no plan, and then ran away.
Oh, and the lickspittle Cameron.