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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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True. ****
To think [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] told me to "grow up" when posting on this thread.
You're still not reading what's being said are you? I've explained a couple of times this morning alone that you don't "really upset" me at all. I just find your banal manner excruciatingly fckwitted. The fact that you're a simpleton is really neither here nor there to me. Hope that clears that up. On our way etc.
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neilbard
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- Oct 8, 2013
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Baker lite
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One of the most fascinating things about this stage of the abortion we call Brexit, is how Labour, who wasn’t invited by the Tories to take any part in the separation process, are being roundly blamed by the media, some leavers, and some remainers for the whole debacle. Realistically, what could they have done that would have had any effect. On here it’s said that Corbyn only brought a no confidence vote when goaded by May, if it had no chance of winning when he invoked it, it had no chance before that. A 2nd vote is only now becoming a real option, it would have had no chance of passing a Parliamentary vote until now, and probably still won’t win one now.
It seems to me that Corbyn has been pragmatic throughout this, and has not taken any action that would have had no chance of winning the support of a majority of the House, which to do anything he would just needed.
(And that’s only when May isn’t to scared to have a vote)
It seems to me that Corbyn has been pragmatic throughout this, and has not taken any action that would have had no chance of winning the support of a majority of the House, which to do anything he would just needed.
(And that’s only when May isn’t to scared to have a vote)
nicko31
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Corbyn is no saint and maybe my comment were a bit generous, but yesterday was a start.
The Labour party could and should have been clear with it's stated aims towards Brexit, before during and most definitely after the vote.
If Corbyn wanted his party to support leaving that's what he should have come out and said, campaigned on that premise and worked with the sitting government to bring about his stated aim.
The Labour Party isn't an innocent bystander in all this mess, it's almost equally responsible for it.
There are plenty of Brexiteers on here I can imagine being friends with in real life as I'm not defined by this issue despite having a passion for opposing Brexit. You're not one of them though.
Oh come on.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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i dont think he is being blamed for state of brexit. he is accused of trying to use the event to force a GE, and generally sitting on sidelines. the Labour move is not really new, its official party policy which he ignored and is now looking at to shore up support within his own party. party leader supports referendum to heal division in his party... have i heard of this before?
They were generous, very generous.
As for being a 'start'.
Not only is Corbyn shutting the stable door after the horse bolted.
The horse in question hitchhiked to London, boarded the Eurostar and was last seen leading the underground resistance against viande chevaline restaurants, where he is know only as Klipperty.
nicko31
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I'm afraid the thread that demonstrates how how badly the Tories have divided the country, its a long way back.
Trying to push through Brexit with 48/52 result with 2 countries in / 2 countries out, whilst trying to ignore a major International Peace agreement was never going to end well
As for personal abuse it is a bit sad, I just ignore these people, all they want is a response
You’re what my Grandfather would have referred to as a sore winner. One of the most tragic of figures. Pitiful.
With respect, rubbish.
Labour voters are more split than the Tories, the members are hugely in favour of remaining, had he come out strongly one or the other, the party would have disintegrated. May has completely cut Labour out of the process, had she formed a cross party exit committee from the start, this outcome would have been a lot better.
When the member for North East Somerset with a majority of 10,000, has more influence than the Leader of the Opposition, with over half a million party members, there is something seriously wrong with the process.
I even went back and added 'almost'.
Do you honestly think we'd still be in this exact position today, with a creditable, united, opposition party?
May and Corbyn have been dancing around 'mutually assured destruction' since the very beginning.
Of course the genesis of this shitestorm has nothing to do with the Labour Party, but the Labour Party have done precious little to stop it.
Obviously I'm not explaining myself well here, because you're calling what I wrote as rubbish, and I'm in complete agreement with your reply.
Crobyn did neither and Rome is burning because the entire Labour Party isn't as vocal as an Etonian argument created by Farage who had his nose put out of joint x years ago by the Conservative central office.