pastafarian
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Nope, not true
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[Politics] Brexit
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Nope, not true
Mental Lental
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It makes no sense that they would swap a plant that employs 3500 highly skilled workers located a stone's throw away from one of their biggest markets in favour of relocating back to Japan. There are famously documented shortages of skilled labourers here and they would also be subject to vastly increased shipping costs to transport all those now Japan-side built cars back to Europe. If The UK remained in the EU, these Japanese car companies would still have tariff free access to the European market without having to worry about the costs of relocating back to Japan, training up a boat load of unskilled Brazilian migrants to the same level as the highly skilled British workers and shipping a shit load of cars the best part of 6000 miles from where they were built.
You have given in to knee-jerk contrarianism and failed to think this post through before posting it up in haste for point scoring purposes.
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Baldseagull
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It is, but, I suspect that even if I went and found an example or two, you would find some pedantic way to claim it was a different question.
- Jan 18, 2009
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I agree, politically maintaining the status quo is the very essence of conservatism........beautifully put.
I prefer radicalism.
pastafarian
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Nope, not true
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
also make little sense to announce closure of plant weeks from knowing the future outcome of UK status in EU wouldnt you say? unless they've a plan to spin up a plant in EU in the next couple of years.
- Jan 18, 2009
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That depends how well the treaties are drafted and interpreted. According to the Bundesbank the ECB could not commit to a QE programme.........
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...u-top-court-fight-over-legality-of-qe-program
It’s not often I would quote Shakespeare but he certainly had a point in Henry VI (pt 2, act IV, scene 2).
Mental Lental
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I suspect this is more likely given the logistical points I mentioned earlier. Check the shipping route that Japanese built cars have to take to get to Europe......
http://www.nissancarrier.co.jp/en/service_01_02.html
That must cost a pretty penny. Certainly more than just driving them through the channel tunnel anyway.
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nicko31
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I'm afraid the tone from the government has been very toxic, maybe if we cancelled Brexit the decision could be reversed, but that is unlikely and they've had enough
Trade relations between us and Japan aren't good at all now, they've invested billions in our country and feel betrayed. The Japanese are incredibly loyal in business but have their limits
I guess that F1 teams considering their bases in the U.K. is probably due to diesel or the Japan agreement or something. Brexit is just irrelevant. THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAY.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47284096
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47284096
nicko31
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Also worth pointing out full zero tariff from Japan won't occur until 2027.......
This is a balanced view on Honda leaving. It is not all down to brexit but brexit makes it easy. https://twitter.com/robinbharding/status/1097756788588335106?s=21
Mental Lental
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Yep they're phasing it in slowly. Obviously there are other factors as well as Brexit that have affected Honda's decision but to say leaving the EU has had NO effect is very disingenuous.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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chap from Honda say production moving to Japan, China, US, due to investment focusing on electrification, and European market too small for production in Europe. apparently they dont even sell all the Swindon production in EU, ship out to US as there's insufficient demand. very surprised by that, as thought they were popular, certainly get the ratings, but half the sales of 10 years ago.
nicko31
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Prof David Bailey from Aston Business School said this morning Brexit was a large factor in Honda's decision, but you know we shouldn't listen to experts
Like so many things that have happened in UK economy in the past year, Brexit is not the only factor but has pushed things over the edge as acted as the perfect catalyst.
Still its not all doom and gloom, cheaper clothing and footwear all their way...........well at least in USD terms the only currency JRM understands
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John Oliver's long section, on Sunday's show, was about Brexit.
It's well worth checking out (sadly 'not available in your region) as it's done for the American audience I like to think even Brexiteers could understand some of the words.
They've a clip from a flower wholesaler absolutely shatting himself over Brexit, the border, his business, staff, house, everything.
Anyone care to guess which way a man who is completely tied to the Netherlands voted?
It's well worth checking out (sadly 'not available in your region) as it's done for the American audience I like to think even Brexiteers could understand some of the words.
They've a clip from a flower wholesaler absolutely shatting himself over Brexit, the border, his business, staff, house, everything.
Anyone care to guess which way a man who is completely tied to the Netherlands voted?
nicko31
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Nice footer on your email Mental Lental, people and their hobbies...
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This oldie but goodie could probably be updated as well:-
This oldie but goodie could probably be updated as well:-
You patronising arse. I know we're leaving. I think I'm grown up, although at 46 you could argue that I'm still a baby in regards to some of the posters on here. And I do have my head around the fact that we're leaving, I just can't bring myself to stick my head in the sand and pretend that it's all going to be ok. I'll be fine, my firm has a passport to operate in the EU, but I just feel incredibly sorry for the people who are already being impacted and who will be impacted in the future, who were sold a bunch of lies.
We're on our way.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,772
You see, everyone constantly talking Brexit down, when these go ahead types are perfectly positioned to see the benefits.
I bet they believed.
I've got a funny feeling that [MENTION=12825]cunning fergus[/MENTION], [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION], [MENTION=14132]Two Professors[/MENTION], [MENTION=17469]melias shoes[/MENTION], [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION], [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] etc etc will currently be moving their assets offshore and sorting out their residencies preparing for Brexit whilst all the Remoaners just keep sitting around posting links that make Brexit look bad
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