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I suppose it depends on your point of view. I've always seen it's aim as a unifying approach that allows separate countries to come together with shared purpose and ideology to enable trade, regulations, markets and welfare across borders for a common goal of prosperity and development. The reason the EU has grown behind an original form, is surely down to the success of those goals?
Our biggest issue is that other than the Irish border, we have never experienced the natural regional economies that exist across borders in Europe. There are French and Spanish that see themselves as Catalans rather than to each nation to which they belong. Having seemless trade, borders, shared regulations is just a natural benefit that we simply don't see because we have never had that. Our benefit is more abstract, because of the physical geography. No matter how we dress it, we don't like them over there telling us what to do.
I don't disagree with some of what [MENTION=12825]cunning fergus[/MENTION] says about oversight, accountability, sovereignty, Tony Benn said the same thing for years. However, I always thought that as a 'club' the membership upsides outweighed the downsides.
Maybe it's aim is now to be a government, super state, a sovereign power in it's own right. I do find that hyperbole and overplaying the EUs hand somewhat.
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Have a trip down to your local Waitrose HWT, they stock Tripel Karmeliet for £2.99 a 330ml bottle, in Belgium you can pick it up for 1.15 Euros, just over £1, it's a lovely beer but sadly I will never be able to afford £2.99 let alone what the price will increase to when the Pound loses value when we go. It's the last hurrah and then it's back to drinking piss.
Agree with a lot of what you've posted. I'd ask you a question - the well stated aim of the EU is ever closer integration. Where do you see this leading ? Obviously as a leaver I see that as a 'United States of Europe' .... a single fedral state. I really can't see where else it could go ?
Stay strong HWT, you’re our only hope.
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She needs to be more positive.
Well anyone who breezily 'looks forward' to a no deal Brexit might reflect on their position a little more after reading this.
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Well anyone who breezily 'looks forward' to a no deal Brexit might reflect on their position a little more after reading this.
But the EU does have a president, a foreign minister and a central bank ....... all elements of government. It's aim is to be a government.
The main reason for appeasement was primarily that Britain thought war wouldn't happen because the Germans wouldn't be mad enough to go to war with them, and by the late 1930s were hopelessly unprepared for war. There was a massive push in armaments production after the invasion of the Sudetenland but by September 1939 Britain was hopelessly unprepared for war, and had it not been for the phoney war Britain would have struggled to compete. Indeed had there been some form of land crossing to allow the Wehrmacht into Britain in 1940 Britain would probably have lost.
Coming from someone who thinks there'll just be some teething problems that aren't insurmountable if no deal was to happen and we'll be alright in about 18 months.