[Politics] Brexit

[TomandJerry]

Apparently Labour Mp's have been called for a briefing on the deal that was agreed at the Chequers, because she believes enough of her own Mp's will vote it down without Labour support

 

[LamieRobertson]

That’s a bit unfair on national hero Tony Blair, he worked really hard to achieve his world-renowned self serving knobhead status, what gives you the right to say he has now lost that crown.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I read that Suella Braverma had resigned to. Maybe that was wrong.

Hello [MENTION=240]larus[/MENTION], good morning

 

[ManOfSussex]

You might not like Grayling - but at least he got the trains running on time. Er…………………….this is a man who could literally de-rail Brexit.

Actually, you might not be too far away form the truth there. Perhaps May does have a cunning plan to simply replace useless, clueless Brexiteers like David Davis with another? Plus wasn't Grayling her leadership campaign manager? Admittedly she was only up against another useless, clueless Brexiteer in the shape of Andrea Leadsom though.

 

[pb21]

Apparently Labour Mp's have been called for a briefing on the deal that was agreed at the Chequers, because she believes enough of her own Mp's will vote it down without Labour support

Sensible really, I think most people would agree that some kind of cross party plan with the majority of Parliament agreeing is the best approach?

 

[LamieRobertson]

The usual line trotted out by the true believers. Not everyone who voted leave voted for a hard brexit.

I don't remember options on the ballot paper for soft or hard

 

[severnside gull]

On the one hand good riddance to a smarmy prick who proved that he had absolutely no idea what he was doing. A chancing spiv who was all bluster with nothing to back it up. Should have gone months ago.

On the other hand, what a mess. Or rather, even more of a mess. There have never been a more clueless bunch of self serving knobheads in charge of our country.

Could not have expressed it better. Worth a bump to the top of the page

 

[severnside gull]

I don't remember options on the ballot paper for soft or hard

I believe many of the gung-ho idiots voting leave had a hard on at the time as a result of the "promises" made by the likes of Grove, Boris, and the arch dick, Farage. All looking decidedly soft now!

 

[LamieRobertson]

Worth bumping it down to second

 

[TomandJerry]

Sensible really, I think most people would agree that some kind of cross party plan with the majority of Parliament agreeing is the best approach?

Depends what Labour's policy is. Under this we are leaving the Single market and Customs Union. Labour are trying to stay in a custom union with the vote that will happen on the trade bill

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Plus he's only actually been to Brussels twice in the last 4 months.

It made me chuckle when he last went to Brussels, walked into a restaurant there, and they refused to serve him.

As for his attendance on the Fisheries committee! He missed 40 of the 42 meetings.

 

[Triggaaar]

Good to see all sides coming together and listening to the opposing position.

...hahahaha only joking, as you were.

Actually this thread doesn't seem too bad. A distinct lack of name calling and belittling.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I believe many of the gung-ho idiots voting leave had a hard on at the time as a result of the "promises" made by the likes of Grove, Boris, and the arch dick, Farage. All looking decidedly soft now!

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[Two Professors]

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Lots of this from the moaners,but who cares?Wonder who will be first to reject Theresa's fudge?Barmier,Junker,or the Gnome?Hope they do it soon,then we will have a nice clean break.

Barmier.Davis phoned him Saturday night with the details and just got laughter in reply.I thought it would be the Gnome,but perhaps he's busy filling petrol bombs in the Bogside with his pals.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

What surprises me is that people are surprised at this mess. I have said a few times that I was leaning towards remain but willing to be convinced before the referendum. It was clear that it would never be an amicable split but wanted to see what the perceived benefits would be to weigh against the losses. All I got was lies and rhetoric from both sides and so stuck with my instinct that the benefits of remaining outweighed leaving. Did people really think that we could do the equivalent of a cheating husband who demands a divorce and wants to keep the pets, kids, car and house and still get sex from his ex whenever he wants? As well as alimony?

A second referendum is highly unlikely and not sure what a GE would do to make matters better. But I do subscribe to the view that the 52-48 has long since gone after this debacle. Anyone convincing themselves that some leavers haven't change their mind are deluded. I live with one for starters. Like many, she had concerns about immigration but not "at all costs" like a few on here. We are now stuck with a government pulling itself apart, an opposition trying to make itself sound popular without actually saying or committing to anything. And I'm not sure where the Lib Dems are other than having a party conference at the local pub's back room. And all of them trying to put their own spin on what the 52% of people who answered a very basic question actually meant.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Barmier.Davis phoned him Saturday night with the details and just got laughter in reply.I thought it would be the Gnome,but perhaps he's busy filling petrol bombs in the Bogside with his pals.

You’re talking to yourself.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Actually this thread doesn't seem too bad. A distinct lack of name calling and belittling.

Early days..page 8..look how long the other thread is

 

[Triggaaar]

Early days..page 8..look how long the other thread is

Sure, but I wasn't saying it won't descend into the usual binfest, but Stat was saying it already has.

 

[Norman Potting]

What surprises me is that people are surprised at this mess. I have said a few times that I was leaning towards remain but willing to be convinced before the referendum. It was clear that it would never be an amicable split but wanted to see what the perceived benefits would be to weigh against the losses. All I got was lies and rhetoric from both sides and so stuck with my instinct that the benefits of remaining outweighed leaving. Did people really think that we could do the equivalent of a cheating husband who demands a divorce and wants to keep the pets, kids, car and house and still get sex from his ex whenever he wants? As well as alimony?

A second referendum is highly unlikely and not sure what a GE would do to make matters better. But I do subscribe to the view that the 52-48 has long since gone after this debacle. Anyone convincing themselves that some leavers haven't change their mind are deluded. I live with one for starters. Like many, she had concerns about immigration but not "at all costs" like a few on here. We are now stuck with a government pulling itself apart, an opposition trying to make itself sound popular without actually saying or committing to anything. And I'm not sure where the Lib Dems are other than having a party conference at the local pub's back room. And all of them trying to put their own spin on what the 52% of people who answered a very basic question actually meant.

Another contender for pinning to the top of the thread.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Another contender for pinning to the top of the thread.

Very top would get my vote