[Politics] Brexit

[Kinky Gerbil]

I notice they say they are upping prep for a no deal

 

[ManOfSussex]

It's free movement.

Quite. So this proposal tonight on 'Labour mobility' is presumably a good deal. Therefore if The EU reject it and because it's not a bad deal, it's a good deal agreed by all the cabinet, it's surely not a case of no deal being better than a bad deal anymore, it's just a case 'Oh *** it, lets just keep Freedom of Movement because it's exactly the same'.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I notice they say they are upping prep for a no deal

Well if they are, they are 2 years too f***ing late

 

[ManOfSussex]

Even Michel Barnier's reaction seems tentatively warm to tonight's developments from rural Buckinghamshire.

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[Billy the Fish]

Well if they are, they are 2 years too late

Exactly, the day after the vote we should've started building extra facilities at the ports, advertising for civil servants.
It doesn't help your your negotiating hand when the PM and chancellor resign, the government loses its majority and does f**k all for 2 years, it doesn't exactly scream out "we mean business"

 

[Hampster Gull]

After all that the Brexiteers are going to make us the EUs bitch by the looks of it.

 

[astralavi]

....the...the unicorns are disappearing.....

 

[The Clamp]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. A few on here with big ****ing Ostrich's egg on their faces tonight.

 

[Dave the OAP]

After all that the Brexiteers are going to make us the EUs bitch by the looks of it.

It was always going to be

 

[ManOfSussex]

Rees-Mogg has apparently told ERG members via WhatsApp not to go public with their views tonight but talk to him first.

 

[ManOfSussex]

I notice they say they are upping prep for a no deal

Alternatively as nothing will be ready in time and if the EU end up rejecting today's agreed proposals..................

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[Blue Valkyrie]

We're not leaving

May’s plan has been leaked in full:

Single market - full alignment for goods via Treaty with nuclear clause.
No services in the hope she can avoid FOM.

Customs union to be put in place after implementation period, officially a backstop and to stay in place until border technology can facilitate a max fac / customs partnership setup (likely to be never). This needs to be signed off as ready by the UK and the EU.

ECJ jurisdiction for all areas covered but via a arbitration tribunal consisting of ECJ and SC judges.

Reported by several sources as well as the Times (paywall).

Ir's a bit disappointing that they are not including services with goods.

Hopefully that will be agreed in the negotiations.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It's 2nd when you take into account money taken from the EU. The French get a ridiculous amount back in CAP money.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-eu-members-net-contributions-and-net-funding-2016-12?op=1

We get lots of rebates too for Wales, and places like Devon and Cornwall. Wales has changed its mind on Brexit, now they see how much they're going to miss out.

 

[Ernest]

Give it a couple of months and Article 50 will be revoked , no point leaving now. Any one seen Peter Bone’s statue of May

 

[Thunder Bolt]

After all that the Brexiteers are going to make us the EUs bitch by the looks of it.

Exactly. Still abiding by all the rules, but with no say at the table, in setting the rules, and costing billions more.

What a shambles.

 

[The Clamp]

Exactly. Still abiding by all the rules, but with no say at the table, in setting the rules, and costing billions more.

What a shambles.

Which is what those with any sense could see before the vote. I know several family members and a couple of friends who are very keen to leave the EU but voted remain because they could see the mess it would become. We weren't wrong. Anyone with half a brain cell could have seen this coming a mile off. We ain't leaving the EU, we are becoming their tenant.

 

[Driver8]

Brexit lite. Not the real thing but much cheaper!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Brexit lite. Not the real thing but much cheaper!

Cheaper? How do you work that out? We will still have to pay but get no rebates.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The BBC told David Attenborough to keep quiet, but he's determined to speak out anyway. When did the Tories take over the BBC?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ugh-brexiteers-probably-dont-understand-facts

In a video interview with Greenpeace's investigative and news platform, Unearthed, the 91-year-old broadcaster and naturalist compared Brexit to "spitting in each other's faces" and called the referendum "an abrogation of parliamentary democracy" because of a lack of facts.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Which is what those with any sense could see before the vote. I know several family members and a couple of friends who are very keen to leave the EU but voted remain because they could see the mess it would become. We weren't wrong. Anyone with half a brain cell could have seen this coming a mile off. We ain't leaving the EU, we are becoming their tenant.

The problem is that we are trying to have our cake and eat it, with these proposals, so I expect the EU to say no.