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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,119
Faversham
portslade seagull said:
You just made me think and this might be more common looking at that picture. My wife is a spend spend spend/ give give give whilst I try to rein it in. Guess who wins
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:lolol:

One would hope that, unlike Viv Nicholson, she isn't on the front page of the Daily Mirror every five minutes, though....
 




C

CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,092
https://news.sky.com/story/post-bre...-years-government-papers-acknowledge-11425358

Key government papers acknowledge establishing post-Brexit customs systems could take up to five years, Sky News has learned.

Documents circulated to businesses as part of a process of consultation over the government's post-Brexit customs model reveal a likely three to five-year timescale for putting in systems in place.

This is despite the fact it far exceeds the 29 months until the end of the planned Brexit transition period, and the near nine months until the UK's formal departure from the EU.

In addition, multiple businesses have told senior cabinet ministers it would in fact take a decade to create a computer system that could be used by all small and medium businesses that currently operate across the UK-EU border.

At a meeting at the Cabinet Office on 20 June, chaired by the prime minster's effective deputy David Lidington, detailed papers were circulated to 10 key business representatives.

The documents, which had to be returned at the end of the meeting, acknowledged the timescale of up to five years.

International Trade Secretary Liam Fox, Environment Secretary Michael Gove, Business Secretary Greg Clark and Theresa May's Europe adviser Olly Robbins were also present at the meeting.

The businesses represented included consumer company Diageo, retailers Tesco and Asos, manufacturers BMW, GE, GSK, and logistics company UPS.

They were joined by trade bodies for ports and manufacturers, as well as the British Chambers of Commerce.
A source told Sky News that "five years is incredibly optimistic, and government was told very firmly that it would take a decade or more to develop a system that could work in particular for all the small and medium sized businesses".

A number of the larger businesses did say they could adapt, at a cost, to a new customs model.

But they were deeply concerned about "increasingly terrified" smaller businesses in their supply chains, who had little experience of handling customs declarations.

Small companies are highly unlikely to use the same lorries and drivers required for efficient use of pre-notification systems, automatic number plate recognition, and facial recognition.

Business representatives were surprised by how thoroughly both the "new customs partnership" and the "maximum facilitation" customs models - currently being considered by ministers - had been developed by officials, and by external consultants including McKinsey and Boston Consulting Group.

The meeting indicated the government is moving towards a "hybrid model", involving some degree of "self assessment" of customs liability.

This is likely to involve the UK having the option to diverge on EU tariffs, but not choosing to exercise that option in the years that systems are developed and put in place.

But, larger manufacturers repeatedly made the point that customs were only a "small subset" of their Brexit concerns that could lead to trade frictions at the UK-EU border.

In particular, the meeting said nothing about the regulatory alignment required to avoid checks on food, agriculture and pharmaceuticals, nor on the crucial issue of "rules of origin" - as required outside the EU's customs union.
Last month, Sky News reported on key rules of origin problems both in the car industry, and from the Dutch government advising its exporters to avoid UK parts.

Theresa May was in the Netherlands meeting her Dutch counterpart Mark Rutte on Tuesday. Over lunch, in front of cameras, he told the prime minister: "We urgently need clarity".
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Two Professors

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Wonder how the Twatterati feel about the EU closing down free speech on the internet?Haven't noticed any shock/horror/offended behaviour by any of them over this-what a surprise!:fishing:

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ManOfSussex

ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,173
Rape of Hastings, Sussex




Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
67,875
Beside the seaside, beside the sea


Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
67,875
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
Vote Leave broke electoral law on 4 charges. Note the cynical press release by the BBC, when everyone is celebrating the England win (yes JC, I was waving my England flag) instead of allowing the Electoral Commission to publish their own results. A good day to publish bad news eh?

This should mean the referendum is null and void.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561?SThisFB
 






C

CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,092
Lying little toerag Esther McVey on the edge as she's been telling porkies in Parliament. Another Brexiter May will have to fight tokeep in her cabinet when they should be sacked.
 




Two Professors

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Thunder Bolt said:
Vote Leave broke electoral law on 4 charges. Note the cynical press release by the BBC, when everyone is celebrating the England win (yes JC, I was waving my England flag) instead of allowing the Electoral Commission to publish their own results. A good day to publish bad news eh?

This should mean the referendum is null and void.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44704561?SThisFB
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It's just the same leaked news as the last time you whinged about it.:yawn:
 




Two Professors

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
ManOfSussex said:
Over 25% of London's population was born outside of Europe. I assume you don't like that, but how is it the EU's fault?
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It's the over 25% from the EU that's the problem.They've put house prices up way beyond what the entitled generation can afford.:)
 










Baldseagull

Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
portslade seagull said:
What like Labour saddled us with the last time they were in charge. They are all the same, some try to save and the others spend spend spend.
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No, not like Labour saddled us with, they at least had an economy capable of servicing the debt, until the crash came. Debt was at 35% of GDP in 2007, 70% of GDP in 2010, when Labour left, it is 85% of GDP today, austerity slowed the rate of increase, but it was still increasing. We are just about hitting a surplus now, and we might actually start paying debt down, and then we screw it up again, this time willfully.
 




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