[Politics] Brexit

[larus]

Under 7's....under 9's....and you think I am still at school!?

FFS, it’s a piss-take. There’s a huge difference between posting something serious and taking the piss.

You constantly reinforce peoples’ views of you.

 

[Baldseagull]

Staying in the customs union would be a betrayal, agreeing to a new customs union where we were unable to negotiate our own trade deals and have to sign up to full regulatory compliance .. the same. A customs arrangement limiting barriers to trading with the EU where we were free to make our own trade deals and had the ultimate say on what regulatory alignment was appropriate would be acceptable and as far as I can see that is where we are heading.

Obviously, the usual extremist suspects on both sides will present this as no change and a betrayal.

It won't be no change, just not change enough for you, as far as I can see where we are heading.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

It won't be no change, just not change enough for you, as far as I can see where we are heading.

Will you give me a tenner if we end up with the freedom to make our own trade deals and have the ultimate say on what regulatory alignment is appropriate?

 

[Baldseagull]

Will you give me a tenner if we end up with the freedom to make our own trade deals and have the ultimate say on what regulatory alignment is appropriate?

Depends what you mean by the ultimate say on what regulatory alignment is appropriate, we kind of have that now, we can, as a sovereign nation, leave the EU and do what we like. In future I think we may have a vote as to whether we agree or not, just that if we disagree we break the terms of the customs union, and sanctions will be applied till we resolve the issue, and whilst we might have it so we can make our own trade deals, they will be made so as to comply with EU rules, i.e. if we do a deal with the US, it will exclude imports of product that would not pass EU borders.
If this is what you mean, then no.
If you mean we will end up in a situation where we are unfettered by any agreement with the EU as to what type of deals we can do for ourselves, yes, I will give you a tenner.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Depends what you mean by the ultimate say on what regulatory alignment is appropriate, we kind of have that now, we can, as a sovereign nation, leave the EU and do what we like. In future I think we may have a vote as to whether we agree or not, just that if we disagree we break the terms of the customs union, and sanctions will be applied till we resolve the issue, and whilst we might have it so we can make our own trade deals, they will be made so as to comply with EU rules, i.e. if we do a deal with the US, it will exclude imports of product that would not pass EU borders.
If this is what you mean, then no.
If you mean we will end up in a situation where we are unfettered by any agreement with the EU as to what type of deals we can do for ourselves, yes, I will give you a tenner.

Reminds me of the terms and conditions/small print on betting sites or insurance policies. They always find a form of words making it extremely unlikely of a pay out ...

 

[WATFORD zero]

That pesky EU are now wanting us to stick to the deal that we agreed at the very last minute on Dec 8th in order to bring phase 1 to completion. They just don't negotiate fairly

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43949962

And as the the Ireland/NI backstop condition comes up again, I don't even think an Ulloa penalty special will give us more than 4 weeks in the ever shortening grass.

If only someone could have seen this coming

 

[nicko31]

That pesky EU are now wanting us to stick to the deal that we agreed at the very last minute on Dec 8th in order to bring phase 1 to completion. They just don't negotiate fairly

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43949962

And as the the Ireland/NI backstop condition comes up again, I don't even think an Ulloa penalty special will give us more than 4 weeks in the ever shortening grass.

If only someone could have seen this coming

That's just not fair, we are forced into it, our drinks were spiked, we didn't agree to anything of the sort, no PM could ever agree to that, Brussels bullies...

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Keep up, ladies. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed ....

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That pesky EU are now wanting us to stick to the deal that we agreed at the very last minute on Dec 8th in order to bring phase 1 to completion. They just don't negotiate fairly

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43949962

And as the the Ireland/NI backstop condition comes up again, I don't even think an Ulloa penalty special will give us more than 4 weeks in the ever shortening grass.

If only someone could have seen this coming

hey Chuckles ..........BYE BYE EU
regards
DR

 

[WATFORD zero]

Keep up, ladies. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed ....

So you're still holding the phase 1 agreement doesn't mean anything line then. Can't imagine why we wasted all that time and effort taking it to the last minute. We should have avoided the final day panic and just given everything away earlier

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

So you're still holding the phase 1 agreement doesn't mean anything line then. Can't imagine why we wasted all that time and effort on it. We should have panicked and given everything away earlier [emoji38]ol:[emoji38]ol:[emoji38]ol:

"Nothing agreed" is the Doomsday scenario.

Lemmings Day - all off the cliff together.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

So you're still holding the phase 1 agreement doesn't mean anything line then. Can't imagine why we wasted all that time and effort on it

It was a fudge to move to the next phase, the 'phase one' backstop section can only come into force if the phase two, three, four agreements are settled. Parts of the later agreements will obviously supercede phase one backstop option as both HM government and the opposition have said it's not a realistic option.

 

[nicko31]

It was a fudge to move to the next phase, the 'phase one' backstop section can only come into force if the phase two, three, four agreements are settled. Parts of the later agreements will obviously supercede phase one backstop option as both HM government and the opposition have said it's not a realistic option.

Do you believe everything you read in the Express?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Do you believe everything you read in the Express?

Do you still think we are part of the Eurozone?

 

[WATFORD zero]

It was a fudge to move to the next phase, the 'phase one' backstop section can only come into force if the phase two, three, four agreements are settled. Parts of the later agreements will obviously supercede phase one backstop option as both HM government and the opposition have said it's not a realistic option.

Well after 2 years of waiting to find out what it was we voted for, maybe we won't have to wait too much longer.

I guess in a few weeks we'll know whether the phase 1 agreement was a 'fudge to move to the next phase' and a 'technology' solution has been found for Ireland/NI.

A few more weeks and we'll also know whether we are in 'a customs union', how and if we are going to introduce immigration controls, what EU legislation and directives we will abide by and what EU bodies we are going to stay in.

But even if we stay in a customs union, don't introduce immigration controls and are subservient to all EU legislation and directives, Ppf will be right and we'll be leaving the EU, so that's the main thing

 

[Pavilionaire]

Does anybody know the release date for the new technology that will enable the frictionless border in Ireland and the management of customs checks at the Channel ports?

It must be coming out any day now because we're leaving in just under 11 months. Maybe I've missed something?

 

[ManOfSussex]

Does anybody know the release date for the new technology that will enable the frictionless border in Ireland and the management of customs checks at the Channel ports?

It must be coming out any day now because we're leaving in just under 11 months. Maybe I've missed something?

Probably be the same time as the lorry parks, customs facilities, the M20 being widened and the A2 being duelled in Kent, as well as the lower Thames crossing being built. There's no rush, there's plenty of time, tick-tock etc.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Well after 2 years of waiting to find out what it was we voted for, maybe we won't have to wait too much longer.

I guess in a few weeks we'll know whether the phase 1 agreement was a 'fudge to move to the next phase' and a 'technology' solution has been found for Ireland/NI.

A few more weeks and we'll also know whether we are in 'a customs union', how and if we are going to introduce immigration controls, what EU legislation and directives we will abide by and what EU bodies we are going to stay in.

But even if we stay in a customs union, don't introduce immigration controls and are subservient to all EU legislation and directives, Ppf will be right and we'll be leaving the EU, so that's the main thing

it's taken you 2 years to realise what we voted for Chuckles ................. PRICELESS !
regards
DR

 

[WATFORD zero]

it's taken you 2 years to realise what we voted for Chuckles ................. PRICELESS !
regards
DR

Whoosh

Bless, which words confused you?

 

[Hampster Gull]

With the input of the referendum Parliament, not ministers, must "determine the future of the country"