[Politics] Brexit

[ManOfSussex]

My take on what Amber Rudd has been saying over the last few days is it seems like a case of "we were only following orders", the orders being May's vision as spelled out in the Lancaster House speech. I don't believe for a second Rudd personally wants to leave the Single Market or Customs Union, ditto Hammond.

If Brexit works out Rudd can say she was part of it, and if it fails she can say she personally never supported it.

Pretty much - she has ambitions beyond being Home Secretary - she did private polling a while back on a potential leadership bid, which showed she may win the parliamentary party vote, but wouldn't stand a chance amongst the blue rinse membership if it came to it for now and even had an agreement with Sir Nicholas Soames for him to stand down in Mid-Sussex and her take the seat if needed, which it would be. It's well known here locally she's told her association that if she was PM she 'wouldn't want to touch Brexit with a barge-pole.'

 

[nicko31]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_wYBn_olDg
regards
DR

Pathetic

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

pretty much - she has ambitions beyond being home secretary - she did private polling a while back on a potential leadership bid, which showed she may win the parliamentary party vote, but wouldn't stand a chance amongst the blue rinse membership if it came to it for now and even had an agreement with sir nicholas soames for him to stand down in mid-sussex and her take the seat if needed, which it would be. It's well known here locally she's told her association that if she was pm she 'wouldn't want to touch brexit with a barge-pole.'

but she isn't PM
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Pathetic

you'd do a good job as well .
regards
DR

 

[ManOfSussex]

but she isn't PM
regards
DR

I know - isn't she the lucky one.

 

[Buzzer]

It doesn't need Anna to light the fire, its already ablaze.

Err...yes...that was my point. it's been ablaze for 30 years. Plus ca change.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I know - isn't she the lucky one.

you have to make decisions in life that some people don't like, that decision has to be made
regards
DR

 

[ManOfSussex]

you have to make decisions in life that some people don't like, that decision has to be made
regards
DR

I know - isn't she the lucky one.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I know - isn't she the lucky one.

SHE SHOULD JOIN NSC FOR SOME IMPARTIAL ADVICE ON THE MATTER
regards
DR

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Depths yes, but I'm not sure there is anything new about them. Collaborators, dissidents, traitors... they all get lobbed over.

... to combat the Little Englanders, racists, stupid, thick and xenophobes thrown in the other direction.

 

[Ernest]

Hahaha! The Tories have been in a civil war over Europe since the 80s. In that time, we've had the Bruges Group, John Major's '********', defections to the Lib Dems and Labour, ERM, Euro, Brexit and so many other battles and yet they are still there in government.

The Tories fight over Europe, always have done and always will. All this scollobs of imploding has been said at every new turn of events with the EU in the last 30 years. This latest claim by you is yet more wishful thinking and more evidence that you haven't a scooby about any of this.

I don't think you have to be fair as none of the previous battles were fought after a vote was carried to exit Europe, always before the right wing headbangers were wishing for it and now the Tories are having to deal with the actuality of it all

 

[Ernest]

To be fair she has history...didn't she leave the tories to join the SDP?

Fake news which according to the Tories is now illegal so please refer yourself to the compliance unit

 

[Baldseagull]

... to combat the Little Englanders, racists, stupid, thick and xenophobes thrown in the other direction.

I give you Pretty pink fairy and claim fair comment on all those terms.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

... to combat the Little Englanders, racists, stupid, thick and xenophobes thrown in the other direction.

Don't forget the numerous unpleasant comments specifically aimed at the older generation 'hope they die soon' etc.

Now death threats to an 80 year-old woman.

REMAIN LOONS SEND DEATH THREAT TO 80 YEAR-OLD BREXITER

https://order-order.com/2018/02/05/remain-loons-send-death-threat-80-year-old-brexiter/

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I see Nick Clegg is finally waving the white flag ... 'Soft Brexit is dead'. Who's next?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/06/soft-brexit-dead-nick-clegg-admits-defeat/

 

[daveinprague]

'The above was sent to an 80 year-old Brexiter today.'

Swift reporting... haha...A typed note that could have been typed by anybody. FFS at least try and be realistic

 

[nicko31]

I see Nick Clegg is finally waving the white flag ... 'Soft Brexit is dead'. Who's next?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/06/soft-brexit-dead-nick-clegg-admits-defeat/

So what is going to happen now, cliff edge?

 

[Papa Lazarou]

So what is going to happen now, cliff edge?

Yep. Have you seen the movie The World's End (Dir Edgar Wright)? Our future is like the end of that?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

So what is going to happen now, cliff edge?

The options aren't 'soft Brexit' or cliff edge there's a lot of murky water in between. Best guess, we will be leaving the Single Market, leave the customs union (Brexit) but have a customs 'arrangement'. The transistion/implementation period will be two years. The only chance of a cliff edge is if the EU decide to push us towards it .. which is their right obviously.

 

[nicko31]

The options aren't 'soft Brexit' or cliff edge there's a lot of murky water in between. Best guess, we will be leaving the Single Market, leave the customs union (Brexit) but have a customs 'arrangement'. The transistion/implementation period will be two years. The only chance of a cliff edge is if the EU decide to push us towards it .. which is their right obviously.

And Ireland sorted with technology solution, all sounds incredibly straight forward