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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Jan 30, 2008
31,981
I'll be sure to make you the first to know once HM Coroner's Office for Hastings releases the details in due course, as I appreciate that will be very important to you to ascertain. As I understand it they were all known to overstretched local charities and organisations in the field, so you can draw your own conclusions from that in regards to what their nationality might be until then.
don't beat around the bush about it ,you just don't know who's on the streets these day do you ??? even the Beggers ???
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,172
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
don't beat around the bush about it ,you just don't know who's on the streets these day do you ??? even the Beggars ???

Yes, I thought exactly that last Friday (29th) when I procured a taxi from the Havelock Road rank in Hastings town centre. I said to my Afghan driver that the man in the sleeping bag in the doorway of the estate agents opposite, freezing cold, could be from anywhere, even Maidstone, and how this country has gone badly wrong.
 






5mins-from-amex

New member
Sep 1, 2011
1,547
coldean
The tragedy is its cottonheaded, lower class, racist thickos like you who will lose out the most from Brexit.

Well its the lower class, as you put it, that is affected the most by uncontrolled immigration, ask anyone who is in the building trade, wage compression is real.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I'd be more likely to listen to what comes out of the likes of Nursing and Midwifery Council than the bile from some right wing Breibart wannabe website

That website linked by @Titanic (citing NHS digital figures) is correct though, I know its not a popular viewpoint amongst blinkered remainers but the numbers of EU nationals working in the NHS in june 2017 was indeed higher than from before the referendum.
The latest figures released a couple of weeks ago for sept 2017 also show a further slight increase in EU numbers working in the NHS.
I feel a bit silly telling you this but the figures are freely available to look at online via NHS digital, perhaps have a look yourself instead of instantly dismissing them and feel free to come back that NHS digital themselves are right wing wannabees spouting bile as well if you are still a doubter.

EU Nationals working in the NHS
April 2016--57558 = 4.94% of UK NHS workforce
June 2017--61891 = 5.22% of UK NHS workforce
Sept 2017-- 61974 = 5.19 % of UK NHS workforce

April 2016
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB21066
June 2017
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30075
Sept 2017
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30165
 








The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,185
West is BEST
Well its the lower class, as you put it, that is affected the most by uncontrolled immigration, ask anyone who is in the building trade, wage compression is real.

That's a misconception. They're not affected the most. They are however the section of society that relies on the most help from immigrants. They also rely the most on EU funding.

Funnily enough I'm in the building trade albeit semi retired. If you look in the right places you can still find some old school clients that are generationally racist,to hire white English blokes with pot bellies and a penchant for ****ing off for an hour long fry-up at 10 every morning, I
Made a living off them for decades :lolol:
 


Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,921
West Sussex
That website linked by @Titanic (citing NHS digital figures) is correct though, I know its not a popular viewpoint amongst blinkered remainers but the numbers of EU nationals working in the NHS in june 2017 was indeed higher than from before the referendum.
The latest figures released a couple of weeks ago for sept 2017 also show a further slight increase in EU numbers working in the NHS.
I feel a bit silly telling you this but the figures are freely available to look at online via NHS digital, perhaps have a look yourself instead of instantly dismissing them and feel free to come back that NHS digital themselves are right wing wannabees spouting bile as well if you are still a doubter.

EU Nationals working in the NHS
April 2016--57558 = 4.94% of UK NHS workforce
June 2017--61891 = 5.22% of UK NHS workforce
Sept 2017-- 61974 = 5.19 % of UK NHS workforce

April 2016
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB21066
June 2017
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30075
Sept 2017
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30165
Pity to let facts get in the way of listening to the voices of misery in the loony left echo chambers though. La la la... Tories are evil... Jezza will be PM by Christmas...
 




5mins-from-amex

New member
Sep 1, 2011
1,547
coldean
That's a misconception. They're not affected the most. They are however the section of society that relies on the most help from immigrants. They also rely the most on EU funding.

Funnily enough I'm in the building trade albeit semi retired. If you look in the right places you can still find some old school clients that are generationally racist,to hire white English blokes with pot bellies and a penchant for ****ing off for an hour long fry-up at 10 every morning, I
Made a living off them for decades :lolol:

If stereotypical ridicule is a good laugh for you then you crack on. oh and you have lost all credibility for using LOL.
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,949
portslade
That's a misconception. They're not affected the most. They are however the section of society that relies on the most help from immigrants. They also rely the most on EU funding.

Funnily enough I'm in the building trade albeit semi retired. If you look in the right places you can still find some old school clients that are generationally racist,to hire white English blokes with pot bellies and a penchant for ****ing off for an hour long fry-up at 10 every morning, I
Made a living off them for decades :lolol:

Wait a minute you were alluding to be working in the city to backup one of your points earlier. Which is it builder or city banker or is it all fantasy
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I was just wondering - of this record employment of which you keep crowing about, how much of it is well paid jobs with prospects etc? It seems a little strange to me to we as a country have homeless hostels with people in them at night with full-time jobs, due not being able to afford to rent anywhere else after their existing tenancies have expired.

All these record number of jobs don't seem to be keeping growing numbers of rough sleepers of the streets at night. All these record number of jobs don't seem to be picking up the slack for people being *****d over by Universal Credit roll-out either or the further stigmatization of claimants in the rental sector as it replaces Housing Benefit. What's been your recent experience in this in regards to job seeking or renting?

Google is your friend. Not all zero hours contracts as some would have us believe.

Plenty of vacancies still .. of course at the low skilled end of the job market the competition is fierce as we have the 'benefit' of mass eastern European immigration which one might think could also effect the availability of cheap rentable housing. Also coincidentally over a third of rough sleepers in London are from central /Eastern Europe.To be clear I'm not blaming everything on immigrants who in most cases I admire for their drive and ambition but the sheer weight of numbers has an inevitable effect on limited resources.

Not wishing to spill my life story online or attempt any virtue signalling poverty-stricken, poor old me route so favoured by some ... but I will say I have had some past experience in this area.
 






5mins-from-amex

New member
Sep 1, 2011
1,547
coldean
Wait a minute you were alluding to be working in the city to backup one of your points earlier. Which is it builder or city banker or is it all fantasy

He probably still lives at home with mummy, would explain his wet, out of touch opinions.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
These investments are also (not coincidentally) dominated by funding for AI companies who are in a race to develop an instinctive model that can be rolled out through industries across the U.K. and the U.S that will make millions of job roles obsolete within a decade. Because in the U.K. And the U.S we haven't figured out (though I'm sure the government and business figured it out long ago) that if you replace people with machines you will save a fortune but will also crash the economy, bankrupt 2/3rds of the population while making a handful of companies and individuals into multi, multi trillionaires overnight. It's a bad, bad business model that most forward thinking countries recognise drains cash from the economy. It will end badly for many people.

did the industrial revolution not occur in your world?
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
This country will screw itself into the ground with toxic investors and tax breaks for trillionaires and your vote to leave the protection of the EU ensured they are free to perpetrate what, and make no mistake, will be the end of the UK as we know it.

You predicted a complete economic meltdown crash by the end of 2017(amongst many other false predictions) and are now predicting the end of the UK because of brexit.…….righto

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There was a video on BBC of an interview with a chap this morning,whose name I did not catch but I am presuming he's high in the police service. In this interview he categorically states police shortages cause knife crime and Theresa May has the blood of the four people murdered on NYE on her hands. He goes on to say the conservative government are institutionally racist and that May is deliberate ignoring all advice from police to stop the cuts and using terrorism as an excuse.
The video has now been pulled and I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know who it was or saw it?

You could just look at your browsing history from this morning, share the link and then we can see the page that shows you this video has suddenly been pulled.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a high ranking police officer saying May has blood on her hands and that the Tories are institutionally racist.
Im sure there must be copies online all over social media already, but your link will be a good start.


The EIB has paid our health service £3.5bn since 2001. They won't be helping the NHS anymore. Because of Brexit. You see how it works?

The European Investment Bank gives out long term investment loans, they havnt “paid” our NHS as you understand it at all.But how do you know their investment loans will cease here entirely when we leave, when you factor in that they do give out investment loans already globally to non EU countries as part of EU lending mandates on external cooperation such as Economic Cooperation loans, development loans and neighbourhood loans into non EU European countries.(eg loans for hospitals, clinics and drug manufacturing in Africa)
Did you really think they simply give out loans to EU members only?
Maybe just didn’t think at all eh?

I wonder if EIB tax payer funded loans still have a habit of disappearing and finding their way into tax havens.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/nov/25/european-investment-bank-criticised


The tragedy is its cottonheaded, lower class, racist thickos like you who will lose out the most from Brexit.

Got any links to Ppf racist posts?
Nah didn’t think so…..didnt this false accusation get you a ban recently?

You really are showing yourself up as a bizarre Walter Mitty oddball
 




The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,185
West is BEST
If stereotypical ridicule is a good laugh for you then you crack on. oh and you have lost all credibility for using LOL.

Lighten up you grumpy get. I was a working class boy who did alright out of the building trade. I know plenty of people from all walks of life and to be fair different people from all those different social levels voted leave. Not just the working class. They all had one thing in common though: Thick as pigshit.
 




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