[Politics] Brexit

[JC Footy Genius]

Why do you keep trying to change the subject? WTF does this have to do with BREXIT?

(You obviously don't realise but people of all political persuasions voted for and against )

Changing the subject to what the party that has an influence on the parliamentary process re Brexit (also apparently the government in waiting) latest Brexit policy is? If you could draw up a list of what you deem relevant, what subjects can be discussed and when ..

(You obviously didn't notice my specific reference to Labour 'Brexiteer' voters)

 

[Baldseagull]

Peter Bone seemed quite chipper on Sky News earlier, so I think WTO and a hard border is very much on. Just a question of where that border goes, but I doubt he's too bothered.

Just seen a clip of that here https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/890471/Brexit-news-deal-European-Union-EU-UK-Peter-Bone-Juncker-Theresa-May

His tie looks like Hazard tape, should have the words DANGER LIVE NUTTER on it.

 

[Ernest]

Looks like May been caught out

https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/row-erupts-over-claims-that-brexit-border-concessions-were-meaningless-and-not-binding-36394010.html

 

[ManOfSussex]

Irish Minister of State for European Affairs is appearing on Irish TV at 1630, be interesting what she says on all this.

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[Ernest]

Anyone would think the EU don't trust the Tories

 

[Baldseagull]

Looks like May been caught out

https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/row-erupts-over-claims-that-brexit-border-concessions-were-meaningless-and-not-binding-36394010.html

Lets hope the 27 agree with Barnier and are satisfied that what has been agreed is not meaningless. I don't like the idea of Britain welching on agreements, not a good look for a country wanting to do deals with the world.

 

[Ernest]

Lets hope the 27 agree with Barnier and are satisfied that what has been agreed is not meaningless. I don't like the idea of Britain welching on agreements, not a good look for a country wanting to do deals with the world.

They may well just tell us to do one and then the sh*t would hit the fan

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Anyone would think the EU don't trust the Tories

Its almost like Gove is trying to cause issues.....

 

[ManOfSussex]

Dublin and Davis aren't singing from the same hymnsheet.

We will as a government, a sovereign government in Ireland, be holding the United Kingdom to account, as will the European Union.

My question to anybody within the British Government would be, why would there be an agreement, a set of principled agreements, in order to get to phase two, if they weren’t going to be held up? That just sounds bizarre to me.

This, as far as we’re concerned, is a binding agreement, an agreement in principle.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...-binding-deal-on-post-brexit-border-1.3322001

 

[Ernest]

Dublin and Davis aren't singing from the same hymnsheet.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...-binding-deal-on-post-brexit-border-1.3322001

A sceptic would say that some are trying to ruin the deal and go all out for a HARD No Deal Brexit , the BONE heads of this world

 

[vegster]

Brexit in the end is nothing more than us paying a load of money to the EU in return for a lot worse a deal than we have now and worse than what Cameron negotiated

I'm afraid the boneheads who want to " Take back Control " are more than willing to pay any price.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Anyone would think the EU don't trust the Tories

Where des Labour sit in all of this? Corbyn didn’t campaign for Remain and is known to be an Eu sceptic. As far as I can see they are sitting on their hands and hoping no one notices so they don’t get tied to anything

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Where des Labour sit in all of this? Corbyn didn’t campaign for Remain and is known to be an Eu sceptic. As far as I can see they are sitting on their hands and hoping no one notices so they don’t get tied to anything

The ever-popular Vassell state option ..

 

[Hampster Gull]

The ever-popular Vassell state option ..

Thx. Has the great man Corbyn said the same?

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Where des Labour sit in all of this? Corbyn didn’t campaign for Remain and is known to be an Eu sceptic. As far as I can see they are sitting on their hands and hoping no one notices so they don’t get tied to anything

Except he did. Got a majority of Labour voters voting remain 63% (about the same as the SNP) against the Tories 42% (a figure that according to the polls dropped considerably during the campaign) and says he would still vote remain whenever the question is asked. Unless you think the Labour Party should have had the sole responsibility of bringing home a Remain victory I'd look firmly at the Tories. They called the referendum, they voted out.

As far as sitting on their hands, what would you suggest? They don't think its a good idea, the best they can offer is "least bad" ideas.

 

[beorhthelm]

Dublin and Davis aren't singing from the same hymnsheet.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...-binding-deal-on-post-brexit-border-1.3322001

of course its a binding agreement. if nothing else is agreed, Ireland and Northand Ireland will be fully aligned. its just no one knows exactly what that means, because no one know yet what will be agreed or not. its a grade A+ fudge from the EU, agreed to by everyone because they can sell it to their constituents as suiting their cause.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Except he did. Got a majority of Labour voters voting remain 63% (about the same as the SNP) against the Tories 42% (a figure that according to the polls dropped considerably during the campaign) and says he would still vote remain whenever the question is asked. Unless you think the Labour Party should have had the sole responsibility of bringing home a Remain victory I'd look firmly at the Tories. They called the referendum, they voted out.

As far as sitting on their hands, what would you suggest? They don't think its a good idea, the best they can offer is "least bad" ideas.

But the expectation was much more at the time. The Assumption was 70%+ and am sure you can remember the issue was a habit talking point at the time. Anything halfway close to the Liberal 70% and it would have been fine.

 

[WATFORD zero]

of course its a binding agreement. if nothing else is agreed, Ireland and Northand Ireland will be fully aligned. its just no one knows exactly what that means, because no one know yet what will be agreed or not. its a grade A+ fudge from the EU, agreed to by everyone because they can sell it to their constituents as suiting their cause.

It's very clear - No border, follow EU regulations. What bit are you struggling with?

 

[ManOfSussex]

of course its a binding agreement. if nothing else is agreed, Ireland and Northand Ireland will be fully aligned. its just no one knows exactly what that means, because no one know yet what will be agreed or not. its a grade A+ fudge from the EU, agreed to by everyone because they can sell it to their constituents as suiting their cause.

Perhaps you should tell David Davis it is and that as Northern Ireland will be fully aligned to The UK too, everyone will still be fully aligned.

I see Ian Paisley Junior of The DUP is now claiming Dublin have been 'done over' by this agreement - https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/ian-paisley-boasts-weve-done-varadkar-brexit-deal/

Such nice people The DUP.

 

[beorhthelm]

It's very clear - No border, follow EU regulations. What bit are you struggling with?

it is very clear. and if the UK is not in the single market and customs union it will remain clear. Ireland and NI will have no border and NI will act as its following internal market and customs union regulations.