[Politics] Brexit

[Kinky Gerbil]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ring-bbc-radio-4-interview-nick-a7802141.html

Hammond turning on May

 

[5ways]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ring-bbc-radio-4-interview-nick-a7802141.html

Hammond turning on May

"The Chancellor urged Ms May to abandon her red line that securing immigration controls is the first priority, in favour of a deal to protect jobs."

if you want a deal to really protect jobs he should urge Ms May to abandon Brexit.

 

[Trufflehound]

Hammond turning on May

Not my type, but whatever floats her boat.

 

[sparkie]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ring-bbc-radio-4-interview-nick-a7802141.html

Hammond turning on May

He needs to shout louder through the no10 letter box.

 

[nicko31]

There is so much info surrounding Brexit that i read something else today. We could control our boarders with EU citizens. If After 3 months they didn't have a job or a pot of cash in the bank we could deport them back home. This kind of shuts down the immigration argument. Although of the 97% EU nationals working and paying tax in this country less than 3% claim benefit.

Yes they do it in Austria, why not in the UK? Probably because its not worth it, immigrants work hard to give us a net benefit. Meanwhile, trouble down on the farm. The jobs Brits don't want to do...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40354331

 

[beorhthelm]

Yes they do it in Austria, why not in the UK? Probably because its not worth it, immigrants work hard to give us a net benefit.

its more complex than that, we dont have any mechanisms around residency or citizenship to monitor people once in the country, we dont have rules around them. so the EU rules that you must treat EU equally, leaves us unable to apply any rules around free movement. i probably havent explained that well. its a core flaw in the relationship with EU, the core legal system and approach to enforcement differ from most of Europe.

 

[nicko31]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ring-bbc-radio-4-interview-nick-a7802141.html

Hammond turning on May

Right now Britain is being shunned, investment is continuing to dry up. Especially in financial services which whether we like it or not is our cash cow

Personally I rate Hammond, speaks a lot of common sense and isn't prepared to sit back and observe the self harm being inflicted on this country. Just hope parliament carries out its role - to act in the best interests of the country.

 

[beorhthelm]

Right now Britain is being shunned, investment is continuing to dry up. Especially in financial services which whether we like it or not is our cash cow

this isn't true though, only this week i've read how a group of technology funds are increasing investment in UK, in spite of leaving EU. office space continues to be leased, for every story of a company complaining about brexit (usually to get something) there are stories on companies looking to take advantage or simply carrying on regardless.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Right now Britain is being shunned, investment is continuing to dry up. Especially in financial services which whether we like it or not is our cash cow

Personally I rate Hammond, speaks a lot of common sense and isn't prepared to sit back and observe the self harm being inflicted on this country. Just hope parliament carries out its role - to act in the best interests of the country.

Maybe that is why we did not see him during the election!

 

[Titanic]

Manufacturing demand strengthens - Manufacturing firms reported that both their total and export order books had strengthened to multi-decade highs in June, according to the CBI’s latest Industrial Trends Survey.

http://www.cbi.org.uk/news/manufacturing-demand-strengthens/

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Right now Britain is being shunned, investment is continuing to dry up. Especially in financial services which whether we like it or not is our cash cow

Personally I rate Hammond, speaks a lot of common sense and isn't prepared to sit back and observe the self harm being inflicted on this country. Just hope parliament carries out its role - to act in the best interests of the country.

When will you be happy. Doom and gloom.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Personally I rate Hammond, speaks a lot of common sense and isn't prepared to sit back and observe the self harm being inflicted on this country. Just hope parliament carries out its role - to act in the best interests of the country.

He's a man of the people. His analogy of Brexit is spot on for most people, 'when you buy a house, you don't move all your furniture in on the first day', of course you don't, you keep it in your 2nd and 3rd houses until you're absolutely ready to inhabit the new house....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/22/philip-hammond-mocked-brexit-house-analogy-revealed-rich/

 

[Lincoln Imp]

its more complex than that, we dont have any mechanisms around residency or citizenship to monitor people once in the country, we dont have rules around them. so the EU rules that you must treat EU equally, leaves us unable to apply any rules around free movement. i probably havent explained that well. its a core flaw in the relationship with EU, the core legal system and approach to enforcement differ from most of Europe.

Genuine question. Are you saying that if we devised residency/citizenship regulations along the lines of, say, Austria, free movement would largely cease to be, in practical terms, the problem it now is for some people?

 

[Lincoln Imp]

When will you be happy. Doom and gloom.

I expect he will be happy when the cause of the doom and gloom goes away.

 

[nicko31]

When will you be happy. Doom and gloom.

I'd say a realist, not a fantasist

 

[nicko31]

Manufacturing demand strengthens - Manufacturing firms reported that both their total and export order books had strengthened to multi-decade highs in June, according to the CBI’s latest Industrial Trends Survey.

http://www.cbi.org.uk/news/manufacturing-demand-strengthens/

All the more need to keep Britain open and avoid the suicide cliff edge some desire. Some great British manufacturing stories (many European owned)

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

All the more need to keep Britain open and avoid the suicide cliff edge some desire. Some great British manufacturing stories (many European owned)

found a place in the sun yet
regards
DR

 

[Billy the Fish]

I'm sad to say that standards on this thread are slipping.

Nobody has said "jumping out of a plane without a parachute" for at least 2 weeks.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

The way Brexit is going Theresa May will soon be considering jumping out of a plane without a parachute.

 

[beorhthelm]

Genuine question. Are you saying that if we devised residency/citizenship regulations along the lines of, say, Austria, free movement would largely cease to be, in practical terms, the problem it now is for some people?

im saying that if there were residency (in particular) and citizen regulations then rules around them could be applied. free movement would still occur but there could be control in some areas. wouldnt sovle the "problem" for some but it would address emotive issue of benefit tourism for example.